Papadakis Racing 1000 HP Supra Engine Dyno Run!

[Darth]

Here it is. The 1000hp Supra!

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[BrettS]

Hell yeah

 

[Mk5nut]

I wonder where are the haters doubting the potential of bimmer engine?

 

[a90moe]

1XXX This fast

That is an achievement

 

[Gearbangin]

This is stock and block stock crank correct?

 

[BrettS]

This is stock and block stock crank correct?

Yup. Stock block/crank

 

[mas921]

this is Fantastic!

 

[PerformanceSound]

It took many many many years for the 2JZ to develop 1000hp on the stock bottom end. I realize Papadakis upgraded rods and pistons, but in no time, folks will have the stock setup tuned and dialed in, and 1000hp B58's will be had. Now, would I feel comfortable with 1000hp without upgraded pistons and rods, absolutely not....but neither would I be with a stock bottom-end 2JZ with that much jam.

In less than 6 months, the MKV is already making 1000hp....imagine what the next 2yrs will bring.

I believe, "fantansy land" was the term...right?

 

[a90moe]

It took many many many years for the 2JZ to develop 1000hp on the stock bottom end. I realize Papadakis upgraded rods and pistons, but in no time, folks will have the stock setup tuned and dialed in, and 1000hp B58's will be had. Now, would I feel comfortable with 1000hp without upgraded pistons and rods, absolutely not....but neither would I be with a stock bottom-end 2JZ with that much jam.

In less than 6 months, the MKV is already making 1000hp....imagine what the next 2yrs will bring.

I believe, "fantansy land" was the term...right?

Sadly many wish this platform fails..

In the end its an amazing addition to the automotive world, this is what's important And as long as it makes a car enthusiast happy

Truly looking forward to whats gonna be added to the table

 

[Nurburgring]

Yup. Stock block/crank

And stock cams, stock valve size, stockish head, and the stock "super restricrive" headifold.
If you said this was going to happen 6 months ago you`d get flamed to death.
Some nice work by Papadakis & team!

 

[A70TTR]

I'm not sure if 5 years qualifies as "many many many years," but the 2JZ was already at 850whp (~1000chp, same as the Papadakis B58) stock bottom end on about 3-4 cars by late 1998. And that was the 90's, where everything moved far slower in every way and the technology was nowhere what it is today. By 2001-2002, there were several people with over 900whp stock bottom end. 1000whp followed a few years later, and while it would only last a very short while compared to the 9xx whp cars it was still capable of it regardless.

The B58 shows great potential and has made 700whp stock bottom end, but that's simply not at the level of the 2JZ and does not displace the legend behind that motor (fanboyism be damned).

I do think the B58 can make more than 700whp stock bottom end, but so far everyone has built their engines either from the get go or after 700whp, so there's still a long way to go. You can throw pistons, rods, and ported head at many different motors, even relatively weak ones, and make decent power (SRs and VQs come to mind amongst others). The part everyone should be excited about is the rapid development of parts available with newer technology and communication...

 

[PerformanceSound]

I'm not sure if 5 years qualifies as "many many many years," but the 2JZ was already at 850whp (~1000chp, same as the Papadakis B58) stock bottom end on about 3-4 cars by late 1998. And that was the 90's, where everything moved far slower in every way and the technology was nowhere what it is today. By 2001-2002, there were several people with over 900whp stock bottom end. 1000whp followed a few years later, and while it would only last a very short while compared to the 9xx whp cars it was still capable of it regardless.

The B58 shows great potential and has made 700whp stock bottom end, but that's simply not at the level of the 2JZ and does not displace the legend behind that motor (fanboyism be damned).

I do think the B58 can make more than 700whp stock bottom end, but so far everyone has built their engines either from the get go or after 700whp, so there's still a long way to go. You can throw pistons, rods, and ported head at many different motors, even relatively weak ones, and make decent power (SRs and VQs come to mind amongst others). The part everyone should be excited about is the rapid development of parts available with newer technology and communication...

That’s true, maybe I added one too many “many” in my last comment . I agree, the 2JZ (just like the small block 350) has a proven history, no one can deny its capabilities. However, my point was that (as I mentioned months ago) the B58 would be at 1000hp in very short time. Sure, folks did it with the 2JZ in 4-5yrs as you mentioned....but in the tuning scene, 4-5yrs is quite a bit of a gap. That is a whole refresh cycle for some platforms. I absolutely agree this was ONLY possible with the aftermarket coming in hard for this platform.

My wallet is itching for another sports car....im waiting just a little bit longer for a MKV .

 

[justbake]

I am not trying to discredit all the work done here but I don't see how this brings anything new to the platform overall. His 1000bhp is somewhere between ~825-900whp which has already been accomplished all while going many steps backwards in technology. Yes there will be many new aftermarket parts from this build but the only one of value I see is the exhaust manifold. If youre using port injection, A2A intercooler, and standalone ecu (which I am assuming will not be easily integrated into the chassis without losing must chassis functionality) then you may as well do a 2JZ swap as far as I am concerned.

 

[A70TTR]

It's cool because Papadakis and parts development, but yeah otherwise IMO it's not really groundbreaking yet (he has plans to keep going). There is already that German tuner on here that did 800+ whp built motor back a while back and then the BMW guys making power on the B58B. It would have been way more awesome if he pushed the stock bottom end until it went and then built it, but I get the reasoning for not doing that too...

But for a race motor, I see port injection (maybe combo), A2A, and standalone being the norm just as they are on many other platforms. I was disappointed they decided to lock out the variable valve timing/lift though, but that was the norm with the 2J for a long time too (granted non-vvti variant was more the reason for that).

 

[Supra Turbo]

Big props to Papadakis. With regards to the whole the tuner scene, it was nowhere near what it is today as it was in the 90s... 4-5 years then, is what 6-12 months is by today's standards with the rapid advancements in technology. Just like 2000hp is the new 1000hp and 1000hp is the new 500hp at TX2K, FL2K, etc. It's all relative to the time period. Is 1000hp in 6 months impressive - yes, just like 1000hp in 5 years was in the 90s. Either way, really looking forward to seeing the stock limits of the B58 motor and it's reliability as time goes on.

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