2021 Supra Prices Revealed!

[Dannyvandelft]

Another reason why I wish Toyota had just taken the extra time needed to spin off the 2.0 as its own model, a Celica replacement.

I wouldn't have made a 2.0 Supra at all. Would've left the 3.0 as the halo flagship, then developed the 2.0 for a new MR2. that would easily sell at 43k.

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[thedude]

That's just an odd way of seeing things imo. That's like saying past Supras should have been auto only because both the MR2 and Celica had manuals.

The same thing can be said about the Supra no? The 2.0: Porsche Cayman, MB SLC , Audi TT, Jaguar F-type etc can get away with it because of the badge. Because its wearing a Toyota badge it has to offer more, but for less. Hence why we have such a big price gap between the 3.0 Supra and Z4 M40i. Like I said before, time will tell and I'll be more then happy to revisit this topic with you guys once we start seeing sales figures. If the 2.0 meets or exceeds Toyota's expectation I'll be the first one to admit I was wrong.

Don’t see that all. The Celica, MR2 and Supra cars all had manuals and automatics, and while the all trac and MR2 shared drivetrains, the Supra certainly didn’t. They had clearly different segments appealing to totally different buyers.

We are saying the same thing about how Germans can get away with lower displacement... BUT the Toyota faithful already accept a small underpowered 4 in the sports car segment. This A70 as we both already agree is a step up from that both in cost and performance. I’m not saying they have a runaway hit on their hands, only that we can’t look at one failed Lexus and say it’s doomed.

Agreed that time will tell.

 

[vb22]

Don’t see that all. The Celica, MR2 and Supra cars all had manuals and automatics, and while the all trac and MR2 shared drivetrains, the Supra certainly didn’t. They had clearly different segments appealing to totally different buyers.

We are saying the same thing about how Germans can get away with lower displacement... BUT the Toyota faithful already accept a small underpowered 4 in the sports car segment. This A70 as we both already agree is a step up from that both in cost and performance. I’m not saying they have a runaway hit on their hands, only that we can’t look at one failed Lexus and say it’s doomed.

Agreed that time will tell.

We're just going to have to agree to disagree.

They have? Most of our own internal polling data says only 10% or so of people would give the 2.0 a second look. According to Toyota themselves they are only expecting a 20% intake rate for the 2.0, and we all know how off their predicts were for 2019 Supra sales. Base on that I would hardly make such a statement. Toyota throw anyway any "successful" chance for the 2.0 by not giving it a manual and a closed differential.

Finally something we agree on

 

[thedude]

We're just going to have to agree to disagree.

They have? Most of our own internal polling data says only 10% or so of people would give the 2.0 a second look. According to Toyota themselves they are only expecting a 20% intake rate for the 2.0, and we all know how off their predicts were for 2019 Supra sales. Base on that I would hardly make such a statement. Toyota throw anyway any "successful" chance for the 2.0 by not giving it a manual and a closed differential.

Finally something we agree on

If it wasn’t obvious, I was referring to the 86 when I said they embrace an underpowered 4 in a sports car.

So are you saying they -won’t- sell 20% of the total Supra number? (which we agree is small and not likely to grow significantly)

So you think it will be 10%. Should be easy to track.

 

[Suggs.OR]

If it wasn’t obvious, I was referring to the 86 when I said they embrace an underpowered 4 in a sports car.

So are you saying they -won’t- sell 20% of the total Supra number? (which we agree is small and not likely to grow significantly)

So you think it will be 10%. Should be easy to track.

With taking all of this into mind do you guys think there will be any incentives for the 2021s? I 100% would say never in a normal market but I have no idea what to think of the market right now and how many Supras I have seen still at dealerships with markups (mainly CA). I know after 2009 there were a lot of incentives from manufacturers.

 

[thedude]

With taking all of this into mind do you guys think there will be any incentives for the 2021s? I 100% would say never in a normal market but I have no idea what to think of the market right now and how many Supras I have seen still at dealerships with markups (mainly CA). I know after 2009 there were a lot of incentives from manufacturers.

Right out of the gate and with a lot of 2020 inventory? No way. Definitely will be until late fall or early next year before we see prices soften let alone manufacturer incentives.

The market is different from 2009 in one key way. Production volume has taken a hit for a variety of reasons. Experts claim this is why the used car prices have spiked and continue to rise. New cars are constrained. The Supra doesn’t exactly fall into this category due to the Magna Steyr plant running, but it has impacted a lot of automakers.

Add to the mix that some dealers have had their highest volume months -ever- post lockdown and the market isn’t in the dire shape we anticipated (at least not at this moment).

 

[vb22]

If it wasn’t obvious, I was referring to the 86 when I said they embrace an underpowered 4 in a sports car.

So are you saying they -won’t- sell 20% of the total Supra number? (which we agree is small and not likely to grow significantly)

So you think it will be 10%. Should be easy to track.

Sorry, I wasn't sure what you were talking about. From the reviews I don't consider the 2.0 Supra to be under power at all. No one said it felt slow unlike with the 86. The beef that people are having are the suspensions, open differential, lack of a manual, and many feel that it is overpriced for what it is. They need to address all the issues above.

Seeing Toyota missed the mark by 50% in 2019, yeah I think 10% is more likely. Eventually they're all going to move off the lot with with enough dealer discounts and incentives from Toyota USA like we're seeing with the 2020s.

 

[supraboi]

I wouldn't have made a 2.0 Supra at all. Would've left the 3.0 as the halo flagship, then developed the 2.0 for a new MR2. that would easily sell at 43k.

 

[Captain_Kirk]

2021 TOYOTA GR SUPRA 4-CYLINDER WILL SELL FOR $56,390

https://www.auto123.com/en/news/2021-toyota-supra-4-cylinder-pricing-canada/67147/

 

[Dannyvandelft]

2021 TOYOTA GR SUPRA 4-CYLINDER WILL SELL FOR $56,390

https://www.auto123.com/en/news/2021-toyota-supra-4-cylinder-pricing-canada/67147/

How much is that in USD?

 

[Captain_Kirk]

How much is that in USD?

It goes up and down, but as of today it would be $41,632 USD.

 

[Suggs.OR]

It goes up and down, but as of today it would be $41,632 USD.

so not exactly the explosive headline that it appears to be but happy for the Canadians it isnt much different of a price.

 

[Dannyvandelft]

It goes up and down, but as of today it would be $41,632 USD.

That's not bad at all. Do you get essentially the same models as the US or are they slightly different?

 

[Captain_Kirk]

That's not bad at all. Do you get essentially the same models as the US or are they slightly different?

Here is the press release.

http://media.toyota.ca/releases/leap-ahead-in-the-2021-toyota-gr-supra

 

[Suggs.OR]

I have been emailing dealerships around me to try and either order a 3.0 premium in the absolute zero or see if they have any that might be coming in late July/August. They came back with a price $1500 over MSRP already...

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