Australian of The North
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- Luke
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Sure, they can all produce anything but it has to be at a reasonable price, in a reasonable time frame, and a reasonable profit margin. Many manufacturers are going through huge changes right now; Ford is dropping ALL of their passenger cars with the exception of Mustang and a Focus. Toyota will follow a similar model and without the partnerships that brought the FR-S/86 and Supra, they just wouldnt have happened as the financial risk wasn't worth the investment.This is going to become more and more widespread by all the manufacturers as most of them are already working together on multiple platforms. This isn't to say an in house vehicle isn't possible, it just isn't feasible for a small sector of the market (and lets face it, the Supra caters to a microscopic market).Problem is, the idea that Toyota couldn't have it themselves is just not true. Its just a bs sales pitch Toyota is using to convince everyone that cheaping out in partnership with BMW is acceptable. Sure we all bought that for awhile, but we know better now, even if we wont admit it. WHy - simple - Porsche, NIssan, Mazda, Hyundai, Chevrolet, Ford and more, including all the super car manufacturers have done it themselves, even BMW did it themselves with the M ... but Toyota cant make one little sports car on their own? - its nonsense in hindsight. If toyota is so bad that it needs to partner with someone to make just one sports car, things are very very bad in that organisation.
The idea that Toyota HAD to partner with BMW to build the new supra is pure fantasy. Just the same as with the I6 engine excuses. THis idea that toyota couldn't make its own i6 and needs years and new factory's to do it .... again, a ton of other manufacturers make their own engines that DONT hve that problem .. an example? oh how about MAZDA who just announced their OWN new i6.
Please, enough with the Excuses already toyota... enough.
You missed the part where he actually resurrected 2 old school Toyotas. Akio is not the problem, it's his leadership that has been pushing Toyota back into the sports car game and making the entire lineup sportier (have you seen the new Camry? When has anyone talked about a new Camry before??). I agree that partnering with BMW for the Supra was a mistake, there were several better avenues to get this car made. But if you're going to point fingers about where Toyota has taken their business in the last 2o years, point them at the greedy bastards that ran Toyota for the decade prior to Akio taking power. They are the ones that killed off every single sports car Toyota made when they didn't sell "good enough" and replaced them with a big fat nothing, and produced some of the most boring generations of Toyotas ever.Akio took over in 2009 so that's when his progress started. He essentially resurrected 2 ol skool Toyota's by having 2 other car manufacturers build them.