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Why would I be crying if my car made more horsepower than advertised?? You're not the sharpest tool in the shed huh?

There's a new law in Europe that bans crackle tune. Guess Toyota just did it to all of them :dunno:

I think it's the combination of the 6 port manifold rather than a 2 port combined with a less aggressive crackle tune in sport mode. I'm excited to hear what she sounds like with an aftermarket catback :D

Awesome thank you!

Did you get a look underneath? Is the catback the same? My guess is the difference in exhaust note comes from the different manifold and a less aggressive crackle tune.

Yup, you're right. I read included. Edited my post.

I hope you're right.

I haven't been a douchebag about anything, nor am I on a high horse. I also haven't put down ANY owners. If some people perceive it like that, then I'm sorry they didn't understand my meaning. Not my fault, or my problem. You say again "we're all friends here" yet call me a douchebag in the...

Congratulations on the car. I am up by Cleveland. Everything you said is correct. I looked at buying a 2020, they're discounted 5-6k here. It was very tempting, but I love the Refraction Blue. I'm ok with waiting a little longer than planned. Worst case scenario I'll keep saving and have a...

A stupid invalid point.

I haven't talked any shit to any owner. Only one doing the shit talking is you.

Say what now?

Does the B58 have Vtec? No? K then.

I never said it made one cooler than the other. I just said SOME 2020 owners started crying being butthurt as soon as they found out about the 2021. Which is true :dunno:

Agreed. Never said it did.

The rest of the world gets 5w30 in the B58. I'm swapping it out as soon as I get mine. It's EPA Bullshit to improve cafe ratings.

It's SOME of the 2020 owners who made it a drama fest the second they found out the 21 would be more powerful etc. Or did you miss the whole "bums me out thread"? Wasn't made by a prospective 21 owner. See above

That's normal. Oil takes longer to get up to temp than coolant does. Oil is thicker than liquid. Well maybe not that 0W20 pisswater the Supra here in the U.S. gets put in. I'd imagine a heavier weight takes a little longer to heat up too.

Coolant is the important one. Hot coolant means the block and everything is nice and hot and finished expanding etc. Oil works at any temperature so you don't have to wait till it's fully heated up before you start driving sporty.

Well done! Yup I'm sold. As soon as fitment is confirmed on the 2021 Supra I'm ordering one too.