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  1. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    It's either that or they'll heavily rework the Mazda 3.3L I6 turbo engine that they've been so interested in to the point that Mazda engineers and Toyota's GR engineers supposedly got together about it. Either way with the big commitment to engine production just the other day and given...
  2. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    Toyota *needs* a 2.0L displacement powertrain option for the Supra as a trim level for engine tax purposes in Japan, Italy and other countries where anything above 2.0L becomes increasingly very expensive tax-wise. The 2.0L they've developed seems to be a night and day difference from the...
  3. Official A90 Supra life cycle thread: updates, new variants, 2026 final model year?

    The LFR / GT3 is a separate model. It's a good point though. What does this forum become when the Supra MKVI is on the horizon? And the post history-- hopefully that is all preserved. This forum is a totally separately managed entity from SupraForums, correct? They do have an MKV...
  4. Official A90 Supra life cycle thread: updates, new variants, 2026 final model year?

    We've long known this was coming but it still stings. A whole model cycle is about to end but it doesn't *feel* like it's been that long yet perhaps because we've followed intensely from concept to introduction to year-by-year evolution of the MKV.
  5. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    That would be great if so. We'll see... I mean... the actual platform sharing strategy to make the Supra MKVI and a new Lexus coupe to keep costs somewhat down is already known. Will that coupe actually be badged as an "SC" (or Soarer)...? Whatever the Lexus variant is eventually called...
  6. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    Those GR GT3/LFR de-camo renders look exceptionally good. Personally I love a tough, all business and purposeful high performance car design. PerformanceSound, the silver other concept model with the face re-render looks a lot better than what Lexus officially released IMO. They surely won't...
  7. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    A70TTR, who I have referenced, is a real forum member here who works or did as of his last postings work within the Lexus engineering division. He's backed off from posting but did bring up the points I've reiterated when he was still active here. I fail to understand what is "AI" about him...
  8. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    For historical context the 2007 Toyota HT-FS "Supra" concept was at that time to have been a RWD 400hp 3.5L V6 hybrid-electric (no turbos) which would have been automatic only. I'm glad they didn't go that route by the 2011-2012 starting development timeframe for the co-developed MKV given...
  9. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    That's what I think regarding the new concept car pictures. Question is... for what exactly? The previous 100% EV LFA-II concepts all were based on the premise of having production solid state battery cells available at high introductory cost. That's still being developed right now and isn't...
  10. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    I keep recalling what A70TTR said a long while back about Toyota Motor developing and deciding on a joint platform that both the Toyota division could use for their next Supra and that the Lexus division could use for their next generation RWD coupe. At the time (and still) I assumed this was a...
  11. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    ^^ This. The body lines on this car look much too different to be the same near-production supercar in camo that we saw at Goodwood. Seems like this is a different model.
  12. Lexus Sport Concept Debuts at 2025 Edition of The Quail, A Motorsports Gathering

    ^^ This. The body lines on this car look much too different to be the same near-production supercar in camo that we saw at Goodwood. Seems like this is a different model.
  13. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    This would probably be because both cars had very different design parameters. The LC500 began development in 2011 and was intended as a big luxury GT cruiser as its mission. Powerful... but not a track car. The Supra MKV began development sometime around then and was going in the opposite...
  14. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    It was never designed as a sports car chassis or thought of as a sports car. It is precisely a traditional style "GT" luxury coupe and there's no "excuses" to put on that. You're looking at the LC500 as something it was never intended to be. Cadillac has done well with their sedans of late...
  15. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    Well we already know that the Supra MKVI 2-seater and new Lexus coupe 2+2 that replaces the RC & current LC at a higher-than-RC price point are sharing a "new" platform and are getting the G20E and *hopefully if we're lucky* a heavily reworked Mazda 3.3L I6. And that an RC 6-speed manual G20E...
  16. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    Which platform are you referring to though? If it's the preproduction GR GT3 / LFR you're talking about I expect it will have a combination of aluminum and carbon fiber structure. That is going to be a VERY expensive halo model very well into the six figure range. It would make badging it as a...
  17. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    Currently as prototypes go that would be either the near production ready GR GT3 / Lexus LFR we've seen in spy shots and at Goodwood and supposedly the new GR "Celica" / MR2 if any of the renderings so far hold water. The S-FR concept also mounted them this way. Same with the LC500 and RC...
  18. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    Without further information to read between the lines with it's impossible for anyone not in the know to say at current time what they're doing with the Celica. But personally? Yeah, I can see them doing some version of "front mid engine" if it's still a front engine coupe. Reason being that...
  19. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    It hasn't made sense to me either. The mid-engined prototype/concept and GR Yaris mid-engined test mule (which is having issues) are obviously an MR2 effort no matter how upmarket it goes. A Celica is a higher volume car with a somewhat more practical coupe interior and has never been a...
  20. Toyota Teases GR Line Up: Supra MK6, Celica MK8, MR2 MK4, 86 MK3 and GR GT

    The GR Starlet (in FWD only configuration) and S-FR/Copen/Cappuccino (as longitudinal RWD) are supposed to be using the same engine: a detuned and destroked version of the G16-GTS at 1.3L and 150hp. A Kei class vehicle can't use an engine that displaces beyond 0.6L so there's one reason it'll...





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