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It definitely sounds like the Toyota GR folks are testing that new 2.0L engine in a transverse MR configuration in a mule chassis to work out the final kinks in it under extreme driving conditions in that layout before doing something similar with it in production in another, newer chassis.

I can see a new "Celica" being front mid-engine. That would track with the ethos of the model, allowing it to retain a 2+2 seating layout and improve from previous Celica generations while also allowing the subframe to be flipped the other way around for a rear wheel drive vehicle with some...

Well this now makes it very unclear as to what Toyota intends with the new Celica or MR2. Sharing a platform makes sense. Sharing range topping engines and the AWD system and transmissions makes sense. But a "Celica" isn't a two seater mid engine two door coupe. It's a 2+2 two door coupe...

I'm a fan of the longer wheelbase of the older MKIV model but that car itself was slightly compromised from what its chief designer lobbied for (a bespoke chassis that could be less GT and more pure sportscar). It remained a 2+2 GT for that reason given its Z30 Toyota Soarer chassis starting...

I do understand how it's a really difficult thing when info gets unintentionally leaked. It takes years to develop one car let alone several or to shift major goings on inside a big design and manufacturing company. We can't help but be curious as fans! But at the same time we absolutely want...

I really think the answer you're both looking for is a platform that hasn't been released or formally announced yet. And this has already gained at least some traction: https://lexusenthusiast.com/2024/10/31/new-lexus-coupe-may-have-supra-roots/ This is what I believe A70TTR was talking about...

I'm no insider so I've got nothing there. I've just listened carefully over time and put some pieces together that hold water for me. Regarding that... PerformanceSound did mention (or said it was mentioned to him by someone) that the curious I-3 1.6L G16E (curious because why design a turbo...

Well A70TTR did tell us many months ago that a sportscar platform for both the Toyota and Lexus brands was already in development or was already developed in such a way that Toyota could get out of it what they want and Lexus can get out of it what they want. I think we all assumed the Lexus...

Not the GR Corolla's 3cyl engine-- A new turbo 4cyl 2.0L engine that hasn't been released yet, only announced and showcased. That engine is also slated for the new Celica and MR2 and other models. A70TTR told us a long while back that Toyota has for years been working toward a lineup that by...

The convertible in the lineup will most likely be a variant of the new Celica. The low volume MR2 will probably be a slicktop or targa or both like the 2nd gen SW20. Toyota will prioritize rigidity of the chassis though. The GR GT3 is most likely going to be the Lexus “LFR” and exclusively...

On the note of the market not being there for these kinds of cars... I have to disagree. A year and a half ago I bought a new GR86. I needed a new daily car that wasn't yet another older used project to fix up (I already own one of those) and given the average cost of most new cars today I...

The non-GR Celica trim levels probably won't be in the GR lineup because you'll have the coupe body fitted with a base engine and at least one hybrid gas-electric powertrain. But in the GR range you'll likely see a "Celica SS-II" style trim level with a decent amount of horsepower and probably...

^^ This.

In the case of the current 2.0L Supra it's a 250hp-ish BMW 4cyl engine in a somewhat heavy chassis and also is auto-only, open differential only and with lackluster brakes. It's not hard to see why few people want it. This new 2.0L engine however is supposed to *start* at 400hp and be very...

He didn't clarify in his previous comment whether or not he was referring to the new high powered 2.0L turbo 4cyl or the I-6 he's hinted that the G16E-GTS 3cyl was derived from. However my reading of his comment was that he's referring to the 6cyl and not the 4cyl. However Yamaha being...

Oh…. okay. I see I missed that. Had it backwards for a bit, lol. That is very impressive if so.

Exactly. And he was absolutely right. My thinking for some time now has been that Akio Toyoda et al have been well aware of this and laid a lot of groundwork to make some special models of all kinds (not just the GR products) before that window/door begins to close. Given how long it takes to...

I have no doubt that with a clean slate design like this Toyota can make a new I-6 that will pass emissions. It might need to be hybrid in order to do so and employ not just their D4S direct and port injection but some combustion efficiency modes learned from the Prius drivetrain evolution...

He's saying the G16E was developed as an I-3 specifically to lay groundwork for potential doubling of it into an I-6. As soon as the engine was announced a few years ago that was my first thought as well... but as to whether Toyota is actually going to do this given that it still costs...

I always figured this was the case but that the 3cyl versions had to be proven in sales and public reception before anything else could be done with it. The power that can be made from it is impressive (up to 700whp+ or so last I checked). So far the 268hp-300hp 1.6L G16-GTS has been split...