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Well, YOU did ask:

No no, not treating it like a personal attack at all, don’t even go in that direction....I know you like steering folks into arguments so please don’t try that with me, again. All I'm saying, is that your hoping for way more than what Toyota/BMW can offer you before the car starts costing more...

Don’t buy a MKV....hehe. Looks like your wanting a Lambo for Toyota money.

For me it would, not sure about anyone else. Again, we can all day dream.

Imagine a beefy manual, beefy diff, beefy axles, beefy brakes (6 pots), and maybe a nice active aero spoiler. That would surely make the Supra stand out from it’s closest competition. Ehh...we all day dream :)

I have said no such thing :D.

As much as I would love to, I gotta respect Toyota and their business....especially during these hard times for automakers. I will say this....my “source” has recently joined SupraMKV :thumbsup:.

...but wait, there’s more. ;):D

For the record, I initially said 2022. ;):D

I heard this too....a more “utilitarian” version without all the bells and whistles called LC70 Concept. However, knowing Toyota nowadays, they will probably give us just another re-skinned 4Runner (not a bad thing, but not a FJ). I found out that the Badlands model does in-fact have lockers...

Wow, your right! Damn, I hope my reserve will allow for the manual option with Badlands and Sasquatch....otherwise I’m not getting one.

Who said the manual Bronco with Sasquatch package wont have locking front and rear differentials? I believe the Badlands trim with the Sasquatch package as a 2.3l manual not only gives you locking front and rear diffs, but you also get the incredible crawl ratio of 94.75:1!!! BTW, I put a...

To keep costs down, I don’t see them using a S58....but anything is possible. I would love to see a S engine in a MKV.

True, but if I recall (and someone can correct me) most M transmissions have a cross-compatible bell-housing...not a completely different transmission which would be costly. BMW is notorious for doing this on their cars (i.e., SMG to 6spd bell-housing, etc...). Assuming that would be the case...

This is why my fiancé and I are waiting til’ 2022 to get her a MKV. She wants a MKV regardless, but if a manual option will be available....we’ll hold off until then.

I've been outta the loop of MKV power figures....is this stock block? If so....damn!....NICE WORK!

If true, what a shame. Hope Toyota learns from this, the longer they wait on development of cars....the negative consequences. Again, if this is true.

I bought a new STI in 2019 and for the same money I could have purchased a more powerful, faster, and more fuel efficient sports car. I didn’t simply because those other cars didn’t offer a manual setup that could take serious abuse. Again, this was what I was looking for because I do have...

Like I've said before, 2022 is gonna be the year for the MKV. If Toyota plays this right with a manual option....it will be the perfect sports car of its time.