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Same argument can be made for the auto Jeep Wrangler for example. It is faster, easier to drive, more comfortable, and safer in trails than a manual version....however, they seem to be selling the manuals just fine with those cars. It’s not about speed, turbo cars can be built to triple digit...

True, both motors you mentioned have yet to be put through the gauntlet of serious tuning. However, on the topic of manual transmissions....both the STI and Z have had bulletproof transmissions and drivetrains capable of 1000hp+. Now, in terms of motors....I think more buyers would be willing...

I mean, wouldn't Toyota basically be shooting themselves in the foot if a manual wouldn't be offered soon considering the upcoming competition? It's not like the Supra is going up against the GT500 or C8...it's competitors will be (if not already) the; Nissan Z, Subaru STI, Shelby GT350, Ford...

Manuals will make a comeback....more and more younger buyers are looking for manual trans cars. Rumors of the 2021 STI with 400hp+ and a manual transmission at around $42k will be hard to beat. The 400Z will not only be twin turbo, but with a manual trans...and if rumors are true, it will be a...

Maybe GS6-45BZ from the 340i...not M2. :dunno:

F Stay safe folks....family and health first.

With Nissan’s new 400Z coming soon (which will be available with a manual), Toyota/BMW will grab a manual trans from the BMW parts bin (an M2 manual trans??). 2022 will be a great year for many car makers in terms of sports cars.

I hear ya...i am one of those stick shift diehard fans. It’s the reason I plan on keeping my STI for a very long time. On the flip side, I can’t complain about the A90’s auto....it’s buttery smooth and shifts really quick. When I drove an A90 in California recently, it really is a badass car...

Lol...:dunno:

Unfortunately, I don't know details on pricing or naming/marketing. If I am not mistaken, the GRMN naming schema was never intended for US market...maybe a "30yr Anniv." edition released in 2022 as a 2023 model??? :dunno: I would be shocked if the cars price tag got that high for a manual...

I would like to believe it is related to "multi-million dollar budgets"...however, considering several BMW manual transmissions were used in the development stages of the car, and the already “in-production” manuals BMW has to supply....I am a bit skeptical on Tada San’s answers in regards to...

Not a big fan of the Lexus “F” cars to be honest. I’ve driven a few, and they feel “too digital” for me. You feel disconnected from the car. They are fast, but the pedal response seems slightly off. Most will argue that is the nature of DBW, but I don’t notice this with other DBW...

Patiently waiting for 2022....all this is nothing new. As I was told previously, 2022 would bring "dramatic" changes. Guess we will have to wait some more...:D

Batmobile!

2022 will be the year...:cool:

You can always go to a junkyard and look for an up-to-date or "modern" late model luxury car (i.e., Lexus, Benz, Caddy, etc...) and take the horn(s) off of it and retrofit it. Cut it from the harness that way you get the connectors.

I will end up selling the body as the rust on the inside of the panels is not only damn near impossible to get to but it super expensive to repair....and even then, there is no guarantee it won’t come back. I found someone on the LandCruiser forums who is interested to in the body, so if all...

I was being sarcastic... I just hope that the LC-F won't follow the LFA path where it was marketed to retail for $375k then became a $500k minimum purchase car (or whatever Lexus dealers were charging). Lexus really needs this, or a car like this asap. Their lineup is stagnant.

Anticipated cost, $170k...Actual production cost, $400k...lol. The car looks and sounds amazing! I really really hope this car won’t follow in the footsteps of the LFA.

I smell a refresh coming...with a manual...and some goodies. ;)