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Like Guff mentioned above, "German Engineering" doesn't mean "Reliable Engineering." People assume it's German made or engineered that it must last forever....that is most definitely not the case. A vehicle being praised for its "German Engineering" simply means that the Germans figured out...

I agree, M cars in general receive far too much praise. BMW loves giving automotive journalists and media outlets ALOT of “donations” and “gifts.”

Those strut towers are reinforced so much for a reason, :rofl:....I bet Toyota told BMW “we don’t want an E46 M3 repeat please.” For those who don’t know what im talking about, google “E46 M3 Strut Tower Cracking.”

This is what separates the men from the boys. :D

Please don’t joke about that...please. The thought of having BMW “problems” with a Supra makes me nauseous.

Guff, that's a clamshell design? I mean, correct me if im wrong, but a clamshell opens with front hinges to support no?. This looks like a conventional hood with the shocks and hinges towards the firewall. I am, however, interested in that firewall structure. Anyone else notice the beefy...

Pretty sure that electric engine is just to move the demo car around....like the FT-1 had when they would take it to cars and coffee, etc... No?

Toyota would have the market cornered....at 500HP+ for $70-$75k IMPORT...they would have other car makers scrambling to produce equivalent performing cars....for the same price.

I’ll be the first to say “I told u so” when no one gives a damn about the base or entry level MKV’s.....especially at $60k, and news of a $70k top tier “GTR killer” model shortly to follow. Remember, a base model MKV Supra is not starting at $30k like a Nissan Z with 330hp, or $55k like a Vette...

I mean, take for example the Corvette right? Everyone anticipates various models of Corvettes after the base launch (i.e., Z06, ZR1, etc..) because there is a HUGE market for base Corvettes that GM doesn't need to worry about sales of the base cars initially. The Supra is different, in that...

At this point Toyota, just make the car look like this would ya’:

My turn...:p Key things I got from the news above are: - "The Supra and new BMW Z4 will share a straight-six engine and gearbox". This bothers me more than the fact that BMW is producing the engine. In other words, I hated the fact that the MKV Supra was going to have a BMW-derived engine...

I mean, at this point....anything is possible with Toyota, right? Look at what they did with the 4Runner's logo after the 3rd gens....:doh:. 2nd Gen: 3rd Gen: 4th Gen and up: It's obvious as quality has gone down in their cars, so have simple things like the decals. I would be amazed if...

No one is a bigger skeptic than me on this forum, but even I know that rumors on SupraMKV.com should be taken with a grain of salt. Unfortunately, all we have up to this point is a bunch of mule photos/videos "spotted in xyz". No one (not even folks from Toyota who are on this forum) can tell...

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We get so easily derailed from topics on this forum....where is the f**k’n MKV Supra already? Good lord, not even the god damn Pentagon has been able to keep top secret shit from the public like Toyota has...WTF!!

Are we sure its not going to be a 2JZ block with new head? :rolleyes:;)

...im shopping for used R35 GTR’s as we speak :coffee:. There are some super low mileage R35 GTR examples selling right now for MKV Supra rumored prices.

I still believe this merger between Toyota and BMW is bringing up the cost. The use of a BMW motor and chassis has to play a huge part in the outrageous “unofficial” pricing. I am still puzzled by the rumored price-to-performance ratio. I personally would have been totally fine with a GT-86...

:lol:....yup! Turn on your coffee machine, and get comfortable....:coffee: