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You're certainly right about people not putting money where their mouths are. Just remember what happened with the 86, Toyota came out with a light, simple, drivers car, when enthusiasts were tired of heavy, complicated cars. It was received with open arms, second coming, blah blah blah. Then...

Somewhat unrelated, but Toyota is also planning on building a private ranch/retreat for Toyota VIPs in Denton, Texas, close to their new HQ in Plano. The ranch is supposed to have a small race track on it as well. Would be very interesting if they used that for pre-production testing as well...

Interestingly, now Best Car is saying 1388-1496kg (3060-3300lbs), the former of which is much more in line with what we were all thinking.

Sadly this is a FWD trans.

We're working on it!

In the same way I would still buy the current BRZ/86 over the WRX and Mustang, yes. If the car can provide a the unique driving experience that I am looking for then it'll be more than worth the money. That being said, just like how the new Camaro poses an interesting alternative to the 86 as...

100% I would, if it drives how I've been told it drives. I have had the pleasure of driving many cars, including Caymans and 911s, Corvettes, Camaros, Mustangs, M3s, M4s, STIs, etc etc, and the closest thing I found to the car that I really wanted was in the Corvette and the Camaro, funny...

Yeah, like A70 said, you're gonna have a bad time if that's how you feel. Just a word of advice, if you judge a car by the amount of horsepower it has vs. the experience it actually provides, then you're never going to be happy. I personally will never form an opinion worth sharing about a car...

Toyota Safety Sense is dope, and standard on all Toyota vehicles (except the 86 lol). Would be swell on the Supra for sure.

I'll run it by @Administrator :thumbsup:

Just noticed that this is a RHD car being tested in California. Very odd.

All of the spy photographers are in Germany. Let's not forget that Toyota has their own proving grounds in Japan.

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Me too! Can't wait to cruise down to the shops, while all the Toyota haters look on... :D:D:D

Omg I didn't imply anything, I was just posting a photo! :p Also, I just want to say, I refuse to pay a cent of dealer markup. If there is no way I can get this car at MSRP, then I'm just waiting for a used one. Not because I'm not excited about the car (I'm very excited about the car), but my...

Man you can really option these bad boys up. Even without the Nav/Audio it's still 54k-ish for something with performance options and some cool headlights (which really should be standard).

I believe BMW is transitioning to 5x112, likely because they are hateful bastards.

That is incorrect. The LFA was Tanahashi's project from the very beginning.

:p We still love ya

Lolllll, it was a figure of speech!