and don't call it a Supra. A Supra doesn't compete with hot hatches. It competes with sports cars. The 86 can compete with hatch bullshit.
The mass is the big thing for me. 1300kg range is impressive these days - it says 'true sports car'
and it's harder to pull weight out (and keep it as a...
hopefully they offer a GT3 option, like the RCF, GT-R, AMG GT etc.
Making it a luxury pig just starts to shit in the RC-F's nest. That's the luxury coupe (aka Soarer)
Supra needs to be the sports model. Sure, add option boxes to add heated bullshit seats, heavy nonsense blah blah blah...
BUT...
I remember someone involved in the project saying the LC-F may be going after AMG GT-R, some of those very high end, sharp, performance machines.... could be wrong though :)
It sounds like a born again 350/370Z.
In AU, an 86 is literally half the price, new, of a 370Z.
The zed sucked. Heavy and truck engine-d. I drove both and bought the 86.
That. sucks.
Very disappointing. I had slim hope that Au would get a less bloated I6 turbo version, but sadly, not looking that way any more.
The JZA80 TT cranked out, what, 330hp factory? The VVTi even a bit more? It also sat from 1450-1550kg (3190-3410lbs)....
Honestly, just modernising...
Yeah, us Aussies like our performance cars. For example, we're the third biggest market for AMG in the world... and we only have 23 million people in the country the size of the US. Not bad :P
wishful thinking - it's a leak to determine the US reaction to a single A90 variant, all the trims and options - more luxo than performance.
i feel like we've made our voices heard.
Toyota - A90 is a sports car. more power, less mass, option all the knick knacks.
if i want luxury performance...
that post is old as the hills, and we know the supra doesn't even feature the B58 anymore - so a grain of salt with the performance figures. colours could be anything i suppose, but it make sense to share them across Z4
Yeah, to have space for the A90 Supra I'd need to sell my Benz before depreciation really hits hard - and I won't do that until I have some reasonable idea of what we're getting in the A90.
Will be a used one in a few years now.
I'm staggered that such a significant change was made so late into design cycle. The extra 20kg would need calibration, testing and validation of all the dynamic systems....
certainly has us forum-goers in a tiz though hey? I'm sitting here on my lunchbreak madly pounding my keyboard...
Don't fuck this up Toyota, seriously.
yes, it needs <1400kg and >350hp.
The JZA80 RZ did 0-100km/h in 4.5s.
If those above specs are accurate, it's a definite no from me.
the plus side, if it sucks, it will drive A80 supra prices even higher :P
The supra isn't going to use the B58 as a base. it has a parts bin special with new bits, in order to meet Toyota's design requirements. BMW may use either new engine or B58, unsure
it has been all but confirmed at 1385kg. lots of carbon and composites. impressive for a vehicle with today's level of safety mandates, an auto transmission and an iron block.