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Yeah, I don't trust this "insider information" one bit. Not saying it's wrong, but the guy probably doesn't have a clue other than what he's read online himself. That's understandable. Just stating my opinion, you don't have to agree. I'm not saying I'd be thrilled about it, but it wouldn't be...

Oh wow, someone posted a statement with actual validation! Nice work!

Looks extremely good to me. I was having trouble envisioning a Z4 that could actually look as good as the Jaguar F-Type, but if the concept is close then they've got it.

Looks really good to me. Also looks too much like a concept to mean anything and I'm not quite as sure that it will carry over, but maybe I'm wrong.

No I was just weird about that car. :D

Well I guess I speak like a younger person then. Just didn't like people screwing up my back seats. Then again I would often take my shoes off to get in so I didn't get the carpets dirty. It was an exceptionally clean car.

I had a 300ZX and in that community the 2+2 was the one no one wanted so seeing everyone here wanting a 2+2 is weird to me. Also don't think I know anyone who kept the back seats in their Supra. I always forget they're supposed to be 2+2. I'm ok either way. Oh and my 300ZX was a 2+2 and I hated...

I feel like there have to be some nice lines under that camo to back up the design in the lights. Looks great.

I've had two manual BMW's and driven several others and cannot even begin to understand how "the ultimate driving machine" has a clutch and shifter feel the way that they do. I thought maybe I just didn't get it, or don't understand how it would feel on a track, or for whatever reason I was...

I don't trust any of the info out there either, I'm just hoping Toyota screws it up so I don't have to spend my money on one.

I don't know, the body kit might weight it down.

We're on the same page then.

I'm totally out if it's an auto. Come on man, you have to stop calling it a body kit. It's so dumb. You have to understand that. :p 248hp with a manual transmission, I'd have no problem buying that over a C7. With an auto it's absolutely pointless unless it's making 600hp and competing with...

That windshield rake is way different than the mule. Either the mule is more of a mule than expected, or they're just getting attention with another concept sketch that doesn't really show anything meaningful.

That looks more like a concept sketch than actual vehicle proportions. If it does look like that, it's surprisingly good. Much better than I would have expected.

1. Supra 2. Tacoma 3. Ford Escort

Agreed.

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You've "never liked any other car at all" so you're not a car guy, you just somehow decided it would be cool to have an MKIV? Sounds like you just need to stick with that and forget about the MKV.

No, not at all.