Lotus Emira

[RenRed2]

My crypto is riding until I can afford GT3

Sorely tempted by the Emira however

GT3's are everywhere. Superb yes. My neighbor in Germany daily'd a GT3RS-4.0
Rain, shine etc. Didnt matter. I saw him at my favorite cafe on the platz and asked him - Why are you driving this as much as you are. It is superb and beautiful - he said - Its a car, YOU DRIVE IT!

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[Rocksandblues]

Got to run with these two today. The yellow is a Gunther and has been featured in several magazines and TV

I want one like the red GT3

 

[Supra Cat]

This video speaks to the challenges Lotus is facing to ramp up Emira production. What a gorgeous factory.

 

[Supra93]

 

[RAWSupra]

Well I too have been looking at the Emira as a replacement for the Supra in 2 years.

What I do , as i have done with all my cars including the Supra , is to join the cars forum and immediately go to the problems and issues threads and see how the owners are reacting.

Well .. there are plenty of issues and niggles on the Emira forums,

Not starting
Wiper issues
poor paint finish
water ingress
engine management lights / limp mode

Speaking to owners they seem happy that they just stop the car , turn off , wait one minute and start and its ok.

Other owners say dealers are poor and just refer car issues to head office in Hethel.

Does seem also i would be losing some tech that is useful that the supra has:

Cross Traffic Detection
Advanced Cruise Control
Lane Assist
a good satnav ( lotus has the volvo nav)
Heads up display
Blind spot detection
Adaptive suspension
RTTI ( Real time traffic Info)
Cheap Servicing / local dealer
...and 0-60 sub 4 sec performance


I suppose its what you get from a "smaller" car manufacturer.

I seriously hope they address these issues not only as i want one as its a bea-u-tiful car ... but also for the long term future of Lotus.

 

[Kolme]

I was super interested in this car well prior to preordering. However after I saw those engine choices I definitely lost a lot of that interest. I sure the handling is superb, but why mate the car with a SC Camry V6? 0-60 times aren’t the pinnacle of performance, but why so sluggish in this price bracket? If the Lotus 0-60 cliche is to continue - shouldn’t it atleast post good lap times? I’d take an Emira at the Supra price point over the Supra for looks alone, but I’ll be waiting for something else like a R36 etc for the next car

 

[Schang105]

Emira seems like a fantastic machine. I wonder, though, about the ownership experience.

 

[bushido]

I was super interested in this car well prior to preordering. However after I saw those engine choices I definitely lost a lot of that interest. I sure the handling is superb, but why mate the car with a SC Camry V6? 0-60 times aren’t the pinnacle of performance, but why so sluggish in this price bracket? If the Lotus 0-60 cliche is to continue - shouldn’t it atleast post good lap times? I’d take an Emira at the Supra price point over the Supra for looks alone, but I’ll be waiting for something else like a R36 etc for the next car

reading this i thought "no way it has a camry V6". so i researched the engine and it's toyota's popular V6! my family has gone through tons of toyota and lexus cars and this engine has always been great.

more research: this engine was used in Super GT racing, Evora, and Exige.

this is just conversation, i know nothing of its "sport" performance or lap times, etc.

edit: throttle house has a video on it. i will watch

edit: "...to its credit, during this filming day, Thomas and I remarked often that the engine is no less titillating than the Cayman GTS' 4.0L flat-six, a high compliment..."

 

[J29DB03]

reading this i thought "no way it has a camry V6". so i researched the engine and it's toyota's popular V6! my family has gone through tons of toyota and lexus cars and this engine has always been great.

more research: this engine was used in Super GT racing, Evora, and Exige.

this is just conversation, i know nothing of its "sport" performance or lap times, etc.

edit: throttle house has a video on it. i will watch

Lotus has been using Toyota engines for a long time. IF, and it’s a big if, IF my memory is right they used a 1.8L in the Elise that produced 200 hp. I remember bitching nearly 20 years ago about why does my Scion tC have a Camry 2.4L lump with only 160 hp when Toyota had a smaller engine with 40 hp more. Someone correct me if my numbers, and memory for that matter, are wrong.

 

[razorlab]

All the modern lotuses have had Toyota engines for like the last twenty years. I also wouldn’t sleep on that V6 in the lotus, it’s a nice engine.

 

[Kolme]

reading this i thought "no way it has a camry V6". so i researched the engine and it's toyota's popular V6! my family has gone through tons of toyota and lexus cars and this engine has always been great.

more research: this engine was used in Super GT racing, Evora, and Exige.

this is just conversation, i know nothing of its "sport" performance or lap times, etc.

edit: throttle house has a video on it. i will watch

edit: "...to its credit, during this filming day, Thomas and I remarked often that the engine is no less titillating than the Cayman GTS' 4.0L flat-six, a high compliment..."

It definitely adds reliability and yeah there’s history with it. There’s nothing “wrong” with it. But at this price range why not something a bit more exciting and high reving? 310lbsTq and ~410hp at 6800rpm (redline) isn’t particularly thrilling at 100k. But the old adage “you don’t buy a Lotus for 0-60 times” must be repeated.

TH has a serious skew toward the Emira (they preordered one). They were giving it high praises BEFORE reviewing one in person and struggled to find basically any legitimate faults with the car - whilst avoiding any review performance, possibly due to Lotus preventing reviewers from discussing the topic (CarWOW gave a bit of a workaround showing their tester hit a 0-60 in well over 5sec).

That TH review was one of my least favorite reviews from them - even amongst their harsh Supra reviews. The Emira is absolutely gorgeous - one of my favorite looking cars in yearsssss. But I really wanted more oomph (but that’s my personal bias).

 

[Supra_UK_]

Wow... I can't believe I'm seeing/getting "Nice Toyota" comment vibes regarding the Lotus Emira, on a GR Supra forum, where we receive daily "Nice BMW" comments, thought we'd be better than that.



Disclosure: I love the Supra, I love the Emira, both great engines, both staggering looks

 

[Kolme]

Wow... I can't believe I'm seeing/getting "Nice Toyota" comment vibes regarding the Lotus Emira, on a GR Supra forum, where we receive daily "Nice BMW" comments, thought we'd be better than that.

Disclosure: I love the Supra, I love the Emira, both great engines, both staggering looks

I don’t think I’m getting or intending those vibes. My qualm is the engine performance - who cares who makes what. Hell I owned a Crossfire SRT6 once - Chrysler/amg/MB whatever lol.

 

[BraveDemon]

Configurator for the 4 pot is now live… and it comes in at a whopping $99,900.

I was somewhat interested in the 4 pot (kind of want to bring home a 4 cylinder mid engine car next) but not at that price. The supercharged V6 is only $6k more - not sure who would willingly buy the I4.

 

[NitroYellowMKV]

I have had a deposit on a first edition for a very long time now, it should be the first batch of orders getting delivered to the US but the delays are insane. Talking to my dealer, he thinks I'll be lucky If I get it early 2024, and while first edition owners get Price locked from the MSRP jumps (thank god, ford screwed me on the Braptor order), everyone else is getting shafted with the higher MSRP. I Had high hopes as I loved the evora but it was too much of a glued-together mess for me to spend that much money on it, I hope the Emira is better but not looking optimistic.

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