Villa Jonny
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Yeah the JDM fanboys are flipping out already. Lol
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MotorFF
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If it's auto only they will easily lose 1/3 of possible future sales. With it only being a 2 seater that's another 1/3 sales gone.
I'm not really fussed with the power claim from that mag but I'm losing hope.
Looks like I'll be shopping for a manual M2 aswell.
I'm not really fussed with the power claim from that mag but I'm losing hope.
Looks like I'll be shopping for a manual M2 aswell.
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I think 30% sales loss is too high....overall % of cars that come in manual I believe is less than 10% and dropping...Anyway this along only being a two seater, would have been areas seriously discussed reviewed and vetted before they decided to move forward with the car...
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I don't think the lose of backseats are that a big of a deal. When polled, only about 10% said they would not buy if it were a 2 seater.
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/it...e-a-2-seater-new-spy-shots-from-autoweek.717/
However, the manual part seems to be the bigger issue. Roughly half of voters said they would be out if a manual was not offered.
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/to...s-secretive-catch-sports-grade-gr-exists.730/
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/it...e-a-2-seater-new-spy-shots-from-autoweek.717/
However, the manual part seems to be the bigger issue. Roughly half of voters said they would be out if a manual was not offered.
https://www.supramkv.com/threads/to...s-secretive-catch-sports-grade-gr-exists.730/
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Ya I know here those are the survey results on this forum....but I was thinking more global...
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Maybe 10% of overall cars are manual. But on a specialty car like this. I would estimate 30-40% manual. But I wouldn't estimate the same amount of sales loss. I would buy this in a manual if offered. But if it only comes it auto, I'm not ruling it out based on that alone. But some will for sure
Having only 2 seats would have me thinking more about my purchase than a good auto
Having only 2 seats would have me thinking more about my purchase than a good auto
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I hear ya..
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I'd rather go with a Lotus if it's not offered with a manual. Technically there's more Toyota in those than in the new Supra, depending on how you count... ;-)
Two seats for a week-end car is a non-issue to me.
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The poll was done on this forum so it is not a perfectly valid sample from a statistical standpoint. People here ( me too) are car enthusiasts that searched for the next supra on the internet to find this forum , and naturally these people traditionally like the manual more . The loss of the backseats though will impact the most people that want a fast car that can be daily driven and don't care that this car is a supra , this group of people is far larger and often richer than most car enthusiast crowd . I am not saying toyota should cater to those people needs only but if we are being exact here the supra was from the start a 4 seater and GT car period .
2JZ-No-Sh*t
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Personally I'm more upset about the lack of a manual vs some tiny cramp backseats thats never going to be used.
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Captain_Kirk
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I don't think they are going to lose that much sales just because its a 2 seater. Interesting fact, in just 3 years the FD out sold the MKIV. I think we should look at the overall package. If its styled nicely, lightweight, decent to good power, more than one transmission choice, and priced reasonable than I think it will do just fine.
The FD's backseats are a joke. My friend did the conversion and just for fun I tried it out. I'm 5'5 and my head was bowing a little and I was still touching the headliner. Also there was zero legroom when the front seats are returned to the normal position.
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JZA80 seats are also a joke. Seat in normal positon (I'm only 6'0") and there's be maybe 40mm (1.57" for you Americans ) of room between rear seat cushion and back of the front seat.
The GT86/FRS was far better (I had one)
A61 had the only slightly useful rear seats of any Supra
) of room between rear seat cushion and back of the front seat.The GT86/FRS was far better (I had one)
A61 had the only slightly useful rear seats of any Supra
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