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Geneva's the scene for new hypercars, the petroltrash can easily hop over to check out the latest, so we may see a few new versions of those. On the reliability of the first year of the Supra - if were a "pure" Toyota I wouldn't be concerned. But the history of the Toyota-Subaru joint...

It may not be that light - A70TTR heard a figure of under 2900 pounds, but more recent articles are stating up to 3200 lbs. But even at the higher weight figure I'd be fine with 350 hp. Test drove a 3300 lb 370Z recently and it was more than fast with its 332 hp. 40 mph to lose-your-license...

For a lot of folks sound is a big factor in sports car choice. It will be interesting to see what a sales hit if any the Cayman and Boxster are taking with their new Subie -sounding 4-cyl engines. The twins' harsh engine/exhaust sound was enough to keep me away from those two.

Agreed - that bar-of-soap look reminds me of the NC Miata.

Certainly the prudent approach. Hell, even with the normally reliable MX-5, it's taken Mazda over 2 years and 4 transmission revisions to solve a nasty problem of grenading manual trannies in the ND. IIRC the twins did not have any issues nearly as significant in their first year - the biggest...

OTOH it's only 8 seconds faster than a gussied up FWD commuter appliance - the Civic Type R...:D Personally I would sacrifice a dick-waving lap time for a higher fun-to-drive factor. About the only substantive criticism I have seen from more than one source regarding the Type R as a driver's...

That certainly is the industry-wide practice - just look at the Mustang, Camaro, 911, F-Type, AMG GT, etc....

Roofcam is there to cope with the huge rear-quarter blind spot aggravated by the camo covering the rear side windows...:D

I talked to the GM at a nearby dealer about 3 months ago about putting my name down, he said he wouldn't consider it until the car had been officially announced. I'll check again once the concept is shown, try other dealers too.

Most were shared, although each one had its own unique colour - e.g.Rally Blue for the Subie.

Assuming you are asking about the flat 4 in the twins - I find it harsh, crude, and unappealing, more suited to farm machinery than a sports car. IIRC even the head GT86 engineer at Toyota conceded in an interview that it could use some sonic improvement. The STI is a bit harsh as well but the...

Would be nice, but the costs have to be kept within reason - price it up with the lower end Porsches and there will be few buyers.

Good line -- but more seriously if you aren't planning on tracking your car regularly (or commuting on the Autobahn) I don't know how you could get much opportunity to use really massive power. Not easily on the street, especially if you live in a well-patrolled urban area. Hell, even the 370Z I...

Don't disagree with your analysis here, but one big problem I see with any kind of 4 banger use is getting an exciting, beautiful sound out of the car, and to me that is a major factor in buying a sportscar. Even Porsche with all its expertise and money could not make it work with the...

Yeah a $15k CAD premium for the better power to weight and the 300 pounds of less bodyfat than the Z, as well as newer tech is completely reasonable. But not all new tech is better tech. In two test drives this week of the base 370Z I was deeply impressed with the steering feel that car has...

And don't forget it sounds like s#!t. They should have at least used UEL headers on it to give that STI rumble.

If true, this suggests that Toyota wants a very clear product differentiation between the two cars - with the Celica being slotted in at the level of the 370Z and the GRMN up there with the Vettes. Potentially great news for those of us hoping the base version will be more modest and affordable...

I can see your logic - and hope you are right on the pricing. If the base model is $60-65k in Canada it's going to be a hard sell. Here you can get a 330 hp 370Z with Akebono brakes, LSD, Bose, rev-matching manual and forged alloy 19" Rays for around $31-32k with a bit of negotiation.

Test drove a Z today, nice feel through the wheel and flat cornering that is quite neutral, but you can feel those 3200+ lbs. The shifting is crude, very stiff and notchy and the clutch is still fairly stiff. The seven speed auto is the only version that would be a possible Supra alternative for me.

If the Supra turns out to be too expensive two current models would be of interest - a Sport 370Z at about $34k CAD, and a Civic Type R at $40k. With its new EXEDY clutch this year, the Z is supposed to be easier to use as a daily.