Clearly makes no sense; and clearly BMW is responsible. Everyone in the industry knows BMW can't sell sports cars (not souped up luxury family cars). The purpose of any collaboration is to bring costs down. Here the opposite happens. Looks like BMW wants its Z4 stillborn, so to kill its twin...
At least, if the Supra s*cks, we can blame BMW for it.
If the Supra has to be stripped down to get light, it is too expensive. For 60K you can get a CF tube really light weight 1000 kg Alfa 4C, or a less hard core car at 1100 kg with alu spaceframe as the Alpine A110, or turbocharge the...
Think about modified Supra to 600 PS, weight should remain below 1400 kg, that is supercar territory!!! Should even destroy a 911 Turbo S (a heavy overpriced pig, 200K for a Porsche is insane).
It could be the right approach, IF, many potential customers have moved on, in there future the...
Well, not disappointing, it was to be expected. It is a BMW, and when was the last time a BMW blew my mind? With the M3 CSL. Since then, nothing.
But then I would simply have preferred the new Supra to not come back and just be what it is/was: a Z4 Coupe.
Side note: It is stupid to give...
Equivalent 718, that is Boxster S with 350 PS from a 4 cylinder, weighs 1.385 kg DIN, more than 100 kg less than Z4, at 1.500 kg DIN. But that is still a heavy pig, barely lighter than the previous Z4 with hardtop. They say the canvas is 60 kg less than the hard top, yet the car is only 50 kg...
Rather than Toyota make BMW that are The Ultimate Driving Machine because they can't anymore, I would prefer Toyota to make Alfa Romeo and Maserati reliable, as they did for Porsche. Alfa Romeo and Maserati deserve it more.
Z4 Prototype reviews are out, but X5 leak stole the show. I have a feeling, if not Toyota, BMW would have dropped the Z4, just as Mercedes will drop the SLK, and instead continue with making their X1, X2, X3, X4, X5, X6, X7, X8 with M derivatives. That is all BMW is about today. And BMW really...
Also a concern for me. You can thank Mustang drivers for hitting pedestrians. Truck with modified bullbars are way more dangerous than anything else (if there is anything as non dangerous vehicle-to-pedestrian collision). Sports car are sold in low numbers, cannot they be exempt from pedestrian...
It is funny how 350 PS is too little for a Supra, but enough for a 718 Cayman, that costs more and is heavier, and has cheap *ss eco car front suspension.
I hope Toyota learned from PSA-BMW collaboration, where BMW joined with PSA to build the 1.6l THP for the Mini, and that motor only had problems, that impacted PSA reliability. Then BMW left the deal and PSA was left with an engine full of problems. PSA has finally reseolved all the issues, with...
The other side (German) is the same. In their minds they are superior. I am not getting into politics, but that is also the case within the European Union.
When you look at other partnerships with Germans, they all failed, and the others always disregarded by the Germans. Daimler-Chrysler was...