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Ya well I don't think this car is going to sell well to be honest. I'm only going to buy it if they sell it to me below invoice. I don't care if I have to wait another year for the next model also.

Dealers can try what ever they want. Go in the middle of the month, decline the first offer, give them the number you want, when they refuse walk out the door. They'll call you 100%. Wait a week, and by the end of the month they'll give you what you want so they can reach their monthly sales goal.

Toyota doesn't decide whether dealers can negotiate. Nor can they just "hike up" prices. This is a car. There are tons of cars and this is only special to some people because of nostalgia. On paper it's still an automobile. Wait till the second model year and when the hype train is gone, it'll...

I agree with everyone's sentiments. To me, 50k is a magic number. Anything above that and it starts to feel like I'm paying too much to indulge. At 50k I can negotiate it down to the 40s and it starts to feel more practical in my mind.

Our inside said Tada himself stated 50-55k

Well there was an article a Lil while back that said the 86 was being redesigned

Thanks for the info A7! I'm glad that everything is working out for all the members and enthusiasts in the Supra community. I never doubted Toyota. On another note, do you have any info on the redesigns of Toyota's trucks? 4runner, Tundra etc.?

No not a v8, likely they will hybridize their ecoboost 4 cylinder. At least 30 mpg city is what I'd expect.

After seeing the announcement that Ford would be creating a Hybrid Mustang, I started doing a little investigating to try to find some details. From what I read, v8 like power with more torque and MPG higher than their current eco boost offering (21 mpg in eco boost). I'm assuming the mpg will...

That looks sick

He's talking about the m240i. 340 hp turbo i6 that does 0-60 in ~4.3 seconds. That's no slouch. It comes in around $45k base and is going to directly compete with the Supra in price.

Toyota gives every motor it works on a little kiss at the end of production. That convinces the little motor to work extra hard and reliably. Hope everyone can sleep easy now.

Finally a number. So the top end non GR spec is in that range. Not bad, with some negotiation and good timing I'm sure it could be had for high 40s.

Lmao, this guy.

Can we throw a beige in there.

Nope, not going to happen. An i6 and V6 sit differently in an engine. No way in hell they would do something so ridiculous.

Wait what? You didn't change your oil for 2 years?

Regarding the reliability of BMW products, Tada-san had this to say: from that quote I assume they addressed the issue of reliability to a point where it's no longer a concern for Toyota.

The vents may be fake, but you want to know what's real? My enthusiasm for this car :dance:

55k Canadian? That's like 43ish USD? Not bad. Way better than the 60k I was hearing months ago.