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Come on, it is the exact same concept. Look at the Z06 grill, it isn't entirely open, there are closed off parts but they decided to make the grille look larger than it actually needs to be...it is all for show, no different than the GT86 or Zupra's fake vents. ...if you're really paranoid...

Even if the HP is bumped up, I still have a hard time believing the Zupra will truly hold up against a Porsche considering the extra weight while being a FR layout...the specs & price give me the impression that they designed and engineered this by committee, everyone wanted their hand in the...

of course not, and why would they need to be? Have you taken a trip to an economy brand's dealership? 99% of people who go through such dealerships don't care to understand cars (nothing wrong with that), they just care about the monthly payment amount & practicality. ..enthusiasts will...

why compare the RC F at 75 K when that doesn't buy you any more performance? The base price at 64 K is the real comparison.. Either way, I'm not sure why you think Supra would cannibalize the RC F, they should be two totally different shoppers as most Lexus buyers don't care about actually...

From the very beginning I figured there would be a big conflict of interest with the Supra being BMW...why would BMW want to allow Toyota to use their resources to create basically a better & cheaper BMW than their existing models only to increase Toyota's brand equity? This would easily open...

..why don't you think Toyota isn't trying to do the same thing here with their money? From everything Tada-san has stated regarding their partnership, it really sounds as though BMW could care less about Toyota. BMW believes they are the masters here and that they think they know what is best...

the difference between 2.0 and 3.0 in Japan is an extra 13,000 YEN (119 USD) per year so I don't think that would really be the reason..

so if I'm to understand this, it is heavier, weaker, shorter and more expensive than a C7 and it doesn't even have a stick? How did this even pass the boardroom? The 86 seems much more competitive in its class.

..meh, if these specs are true then so much for asking to be proven wrong :s and on top of that the pricing is salt on the wounds! Such specs would have been acceptable if the pricing was super aggressive, like 10 or 15 K less, but as I've suspected BMW wouldn't want to cheapen or cannibalize...

But Lexus has never been about chasing metrics, so yes for people who want world beaters, yes they fall short a little but as daily drivers, think most reviewers have been pretty happy about the results.

which makes sense since all rumors were suggesting the Z4 would be produced and launched first..and it matches the piece of paper we saw in the Z4 last year

..he is going off of supposed US sales and his one friend in NY anyways... ..the ancient GX (27,000) outsold the QX80 (18,000), Escalade (23,000) and Navigator (10,000) in the US for 2017 on top of outselling them in the years prior..this is the same case when you look at 4Runner/Surf/Prado/LC...

the weight is definitely quite disappointing if true..I know A70 has suggested otherwise but he has also pointed out the weight has been subject to change...considering that they didn't go for a manual right off the bat for additional weight savings I think it shows their mentality & goals...

..who cares if they are new or not lol..all the US mules are still using the old wheels and still have all the fake panels..BMW is keeping all the new mules for Europe.

4Runner sells everywhere pretty decently...think you're contradicting yourself if you personally know someone that got a new one in NY lol..and we're only talking about the US here as Toyota sells its platform mates very respectably in Australia, Russia and developing markets. Sequoia may not...

I think we've been referring to the Land Cruiser, not the Lexus LC :p

have you seen sales figures? Plenty of folks still buy those vehicles despite how old they are, they are a totally different crowd than those that buy Highlanders & RAV4s. There are still consumers that want traditional setups without all the modern gadgetry & tech. In fact, last year the...

that shot does seem to make the interior appear to have less cladding and matches the recent interior renderings

exactly...not to mention outofstep is probably merely going off of US sales...the 86 has been doing fine worldwide especially in countries with strict emission requirements.