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same hood? www.lasik.com the front end is shaped nothing like the mules :s either way, the Camry front end looked a lot better here..

it may be just more bait & hype, but at least this looks pretty much like the production variant we're expecting and like the mules running around in Europe which shouldn't be surprising at this point

A70 has said no go on a few occasions and why would we want the extra weight? What you see is the bottom edge of the window which is obviously partially camouflaged and most likely it has some sort of lip..

yup, think that is it as you can see the camo being broken up where the lip starts...though beyond that I'm not sure what people think has changed, the car looks the exact same ever since the fake panels were removed only difference being that we get pictures under bright light now to help show...

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perhaps for the first concept offered by Yamaha, but according to Toyota they used their own design when they took on the project.

..wat..it is going to be more than double the price lol

it isn't just BMW, this is nearly standard in the industry now...and after the success the 86 had with its struts it probably wasn't a big priority for Toyota to increase engineering costs.

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no kidding, it is pretty commonplace...when the FK8 Type R was being released plenty of folks still bought the Civic Si.. @PerformanceSound clearly there are conflicting bits of information everywhere but none of that is backed up by what Tada-san has stated in all his recent interviews. He...

Comparing HP is not entirely fair, torque is what the Supra will have compared to something like a 370z. I would definitely consider those stats if the driving experience surpasses that of the 86. The more I think about it, the more the car makes sense now beyond the paper specs. Toyota will...

yes..sadly, unlike the Supra, this is their true Toyota only project.

pretty sure the Toyota dealer association meeting that was mentioned about a month ago had some images shown to the attendees but like it matters, at this point with all the recent renderings think everyone has an idea about its design...

lol what did I just read...what inline 4..? The Subaru & Toyota project had a totally different result, they decided to only make ONE shared car from a clean slate, there is absolutely no major difference between badging and front bumper styling.. Toyota & BMW are doing something a little...

then you aren't really into cars ^^

Why bingo? Aren't you are contradicting yourself a little bit? @Noble713 is suggesting such enthusiasts don't care about warranties and how good it is from the box, they'll turn it into whatever monster they want. The truth is, much of the Supra's brand image has been twisted & created by...

I am not saying it should pander to such a crowd. I'm on your team as I want this thing to be awesome just like most posters here but I've accepted the terms Toyota has taken to get to this stage and I'm coming to terms with understanding the specs & price. The most realistic explanation is...

I'm still not sure how you're looking at it. Hardcore automotive enthusiast = person that truly understands automobiles, drives his car hard, works on his own car, probably drives/loves stick, etc. This is in contrast to a light enthusiast who is like my friend who went from the Prius to the F...

Doesn't need help? I beg to differ...the automotive industry is changing big time, there is no guarantee that Toyota stays where they are..and being complacent, which is sort of what you're suggesting with "any more help", is the worst thing to do in any business. Toyota still thinks they can...

Think it is pretty obvious at this point. It is mainly meant to keep Toyota in the conversation among enthusiasts in hopes that it increases brand awareness and indirectly leads to more overall sales of their brand. I think the point we're missing here is that there are many "light"...