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sigh...this is what happens when the world is full of PC bros. Ford isn't forcing anyone to purchase their vehicles. If you notice, virtually every single Mustang meme or clip is in the US, not in Europe...probably because demographics of Mustang buyers in the US and Europe are totally...

you're asking for a slippery slope that no true enthusiast wants since all these "advancements" are taking the human driver further and further away from actually controlling their machine (not to mention it only continues to further inflate prices for consumers). The Mustang is not inherently...

...still absolutely baffling considering both BMW & Mazda, both of which are partners with Toyota, are really the top 2 automakers who have already figured out how to incorporate these safety systems onto a powertrain with a stick.. Plus, let's be real here, we're really only talking about...

...they are all very poor excuses, you don't need to be defending them especially considering you personally don't understand or want a stick :) Like @Jeff Lange pointed out, Toyota is still dumping money into sticks and they even partnered up with Mazda who have successfully incorporated...

..but wasn't that the whole point of sharing development costs and pretty much using an existing i6 drivetrain that already has a stick? and what do you concur is "more profitable"? Porsche's revenue is 10 x smaller than Toyota's! ..you can cut it any way you want, but it all comes down to do...

I don't think it is profitable for them either. Remember, it is Porsche's SUVs that saved their ass & pays their bills. I admit not having sticks on Porsches probably hurts their overall brand image whereas the Supra not having one wouldn't have the same effect on the Toyota, though the...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlyon/2018/03/20/new-toyota-supra-targets-porsche-with-help-from-bmw/#4bcd5487499c many contradictions indeed....still absolutely baffling that Tada-san admits Porsche handling is their benchmark ..yet they are worried about gear change speed? Why isn't...

considering they added them on the 86/BRZ facelift, this definitely won't happen...personally I hate steering wheel controls but most "enthusiasts" i guess like having them in a sports car.

...wat? i hate dumb 86 rumors..we can barely keep the supra ones straight and people are still speculating about the twins.. ..can ya show me where they have been disappointed? i hope you know how many 86/BRZs have sold (and how quickly) compared to many recent JDM legends like the S2K, RX8...

its over boys, the savior gte has spoken. mk5 supra is in ruins. fact is there will never be a car that will please everyone. these are different times, different consumers, different tech....mk1-4 supra expectations are not applicable here.

obviously i want a stick but i don't think the percentage would be anywhere near that high. the supposed price point will set it closer to the senior citizen bracket...my bet is if they release it with a stick it would be far below 50%, probably similar to the C7's 10-20% rate.

i did, nothing was new or worth debating, you're just speculating on what you think should be the path they take. we're all excited, but none of us are engineers doing this sort of development. more development prior to launch will only be better for us enthusiasts, simple as that...toyota has...

...that block of text and somehow you can't see how racing a chassis prior to launch doesn't add to its development? smh

who cares about the racing results, the fact that cars like the LFA, NSX, MK5 Supra were competitively raced before their production version gets released is only a good thing for us...definitely wouldn't want it the other way around..

now that there have been talks about the Supra getting autonomous/safety type equipment has anyone considered the 2 flaps in the side intakes to possibly be sensors for adaptive cruise control, emergency stop, etc..? normally they put them in the middle grill but since the mk5 has a schnoz...

this thread is salty af :headbang:

..how is it difficult to switch manual mode on and off when you don't need/want it? even the LFA's single clutch sequential manual has an automatic mode. otherwise if you're worried about the herky jerky nature of many DCTs at low speeds, that is probably why most rumors for the Supra have...

fine a couple years, but plenty of 13-15s still have original trans & TOB. old news

what about it? been revamped for several years now.

well in many ways it makes sense...most original MKIV owners are probably well into their 40s and 50s now, so Toyota has to pander to grandpas :) ..but admittedly MKIII used to be noted for its luxurious appointments..