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Considering its a 100kg range, I'd say they were just guessing haha.

From a financial aspect, the MKIV is certainly the better choice. Even with MKIV prices plateauing, there is still plenty of opportunity for an MKIV purchase to be a potentially profitable endeavor. However, with the way prices are, it does make it difficult to be able to enjoy the car as much...

Illinois! Not too far from old Canadia! :cool:

So glad you posted this here Jeff! Honestly, you got the best IS in the country and you gotta let me have a go in it! :p

Ask and ye shall receive...

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1658kg!??!?! How did they manage to add that much weight to the car?? It boggles the mind, truly.

I apologize if I came across as implying such a thing, that's not what my intention was. My intention is purely to explain why the 86, among many other cars, does a great job of transcending its own "face-value", if that makes sense. I'm not saying that the Zupra will do the same, I really have...

On the flipside of that, some of my favorite cars of all time are the EG/EK Civics. I have driven well prepped EGs that I would gladly take over some of the Supras I've owned. I will also fight vehemently against anyone who claims Front-Wheel drive is "wrong-wheel drive". FWD offers its own...

Absolutely! You know what's interesting, the Viper that you own is such a brilliantly dynamic vehicle and yet it still carries a lingering stigma for being this brash deathtrap. When in reality, many people who's opinions I value greatly say the total opposite. They say the Viper is like a...

I'm interested to read the full piece if anyone has access to the mag and can scan us up a copy. :yes:

I'm afraid I don't think I'll ever stop preaching the gospel of driving dynamics. It's really an entirely different world and flips one's own perception of cars on its head. I've driven so many cars that were so vastly different from my expectations after seeing their "on-paper...

Oh wow! SK, that's interesting. I didn't realize BMW tested there.

These are not the byproduct of not being AWD. But they are things that could be an on an AWD vehicle. Subaru does not make vehicles that have the 86s characteristics. And if you took a WRX or STi and removed the front drive, it would not turn it into an 86. I have driven RWD STis, they...

And that's all under the limit. At/above the limit, its an entirely different galaxy from any Subaru.

O, Let me list the ways: -Front end/turn-in response -Road handling/damping control -Steady state/mid corner neutrality -Throttle control -throttle tuning -Steering feel -Steering rate -Bump Steer characteristics -Dynamic toe change under compression -Predictability -Throttle steer...

You see, you're thinking about the manufacturing. You're not thinking about the car. Subaru has never, and will never make a car like the 86 by themselves. They lacked the engineering know-how and dynamic understanding to do so. Toyota made the car with them and contracted them to manufacture...

I think you've made your point very clear, and I do think that should be respected :thumbsup:. There are many others no doubt that feel the same way. And others that feel differently. If I may just ask a theoretical question: If this car were to be called something else; for example the Toyota...

Transmission is Toyota/Aisin, Heads are pretty much all Toyota. ECU is def Subaru though. And the 86/BRZ are so far removed from anything Subaru has made or even conceived in their labs, that to this day I am still surprised that they agreed to Toyotas demands. 86/BRZ is not going to help your...

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