Have a look at the Prototype Supra's engine

[Jeff Lange]

Prove me wrong when the MKV Supra comes out with Brembo's that say Toyota on them.

I'd eat a shoe if it happened.

Jeff

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[Chikane]

little did Jeff or Performance sound know....

the Brembo They ended up saying

LEXUS

and MKV forums was left confused....after doing a Shoey.

#sarcasm

 

[Modal170]

little did Jeff or Performance sound know....

the Brembo They ended up saying

LEXUS

and MKV forums was left confused....after doing a Shoey.

#sarcasm

And overnight, the supramkv link was changed.

The SC50 is the link you are redirected to

 

[MA617M]

Guys a shoey is drinking champagne from a shoe, not eating the shoe

#straya

 

[A70TTR]

All these rumors flying about this mad new Supra got everyone crazy as.

 

[Matador]

FFS.... about the 86 and BRZ being the same car, please note that the BRZ also would NOT exist if not for the 86. The way some ppl carry on is as if Subaru came to Toyota and said "here's the rwd car, wanna buy it from us and put a Toyota badge on it?"

 

[Guff]

Believe in the Gazoooooo

 

[PerformanceSound]

FFS.... about the 86 and BRZ being the same car, please note that the BRZ also would NOT exist if not for the 86. The way some ppl carry on is as if Subaru came to Toyota and said "here's the rwd car, wanna buy it from us and put a Toyota badge on it?"

I don’t think anyone here cares about the 86, let alone the BRZ. Personally, I look at those two as a Subaru, because the flat four engine, transmission, and ecu are Subaru. Sound familiar?

 

[Guff]

I don’t think anyone here cares about the 86, let alone the BRZ. Personally, I look at those two as a Subaru, because the flat four engine, transmission, and ecu are Subaru. Sound familiar?

Transmission is Toyota/Aisin, Heads are pretty much all Toyota. ECU is def Subaru though. And the 86/BRZ are so far removed from anything Subaru has made or even conceived in their labs, that to this day I am still surprised that they agreed to Toyotas demands.

86/BRZ is not going to help your argument here unfortunately, that car is definitely not a Subaru.

 

[PerformanceSound]

Transmission is Toyota/Aisin, Heads are pretty much all Toyota. ECU is def Subaru though. And the 86/BRZ are so far removed from anything Subaru has made or even conceived in their labs, that to this day I am still surprised that they agreed to Toyotas demands.

86/BRZ is not going to help your argument here unfortunately, that car is definitely not a Subaru.

Heads are pretty much all Toyota, so that makes the car a Toyota!?!?! Ah got it......what was I thinking. Forget the rest of engine and it’s unique flat four layout....that’s distinctly Toyota, yep. Got it.

 

[Modal170]

Heads are pretty much all Toyota, so that makes the car a Toyota!?!?! Ah got it......what was I thinking. Forget the rest of engine and it’s unique flat four layout....that’s distinctly Toyota, yep. Got it.

Toyota did dabble in flat 4 cylinders so I would imagine they played with the engine a bit when thinking of the architecture. Just like Toyota would assumingly play with the b58 by using their own experience.

 

[mkivalex]

Also a Toyota rear end in the 86.

 

[Jeff Lange]

The Zx6 86/BRZ has a healthy dose of Toyota and Subaru all over it even though most parts say Subaru - including the transmission. The transmission which is Toyota/Aisin and was first used in the 1998 Altezza (J160). The engine, while a Subaru-based flat-4 was not used in any Subaru vehicles before the BRZ, and uses the Toyota D-4S injection system and cylinder heads (I'm sure Toyota helped write/tune the ECU too, even though it is a Subaru/Denso unit). The differential is lifted directly from the Lexus IS250/300.

There are a lot of Subaru parts-bin parts on that car, and there are obviously Toyota-designed parts with Subaru stamps all over them. It doesn't quite feel like a Toyota when you sit in it, but it definitely doesn't feel like a Subaru. I suspect the Supra will be a similar situation, albeit with a bit more similarities in the drivetrain between the models and a bit less in the body/interior.

I am well aware of the fact that you're only in it for the powertrain, PerformanceSound; as such, I honestly doubt there is much on the car for you. Maybe the engine, but it will be a modern package, not an easy to grab and throw into anything setup that the 2JZ was.

Jeff

 

[Guff]

Heads are pretty much all Toyota, so that makes the car a Toyota!?!?! Ah got it......what was I thinking. Forget the rest of engine and it’s unique flat four layout....that’s distinctly Toyota, yep. Got it.

You see, you're thinking about the manufacturing. You're not thinking about the car. Subaru has never, and will never make a car like the 86 by themselves. They lacked the engineering know-how and dynamic understanding to do so. Toyota made the car with them and contracted them to manufacture it.

Subaru is stamped everywhere on that car and yet it shares no driving characteristic similar to a single other Subaru ever made, yet somehow drives significantly like a litany of Toyota cars. That's the difference.

 

[MA617M]

You see, you're thinking about the manufacturing. You're not thinking about the car. Subaru has never, and will never make a car like the 86 by themselves. They lacked the engineering know-how and dynamic understanding to do so. Toyota made the car with them and contracted them to manufacture it.

Subaru is stamped everywhere on that car and yet it shares no driving characteristic similar to a single other Subaru ever made, yet somehow drives significantly like a litany of Toyota cars. That's the difference.

Everyone ever fails to comprehend this.

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