2019 Toyota Supra Prototype Reveals Production Intent Design/Parts

[Scino]

Yeah torque converter autos are getting very good. The new 10 speed in the new LC500 is very good too, I hear. Torque converters have the added benefit of also being buttery smooth when they want to, something that dual clutches still have trouble with. Once dual clutches can be as smooth as TC autos, then it's a no brainer to go with a dual clutch.

Torque Converter auto will shift faster and more direct that dual clutch before DC get as smooth as TC because all the development money is in TC.

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[Timster1990]

Yeah torque converter autos are getting very good. The new 10 speed in the new LC500 is very good too, I hear. Torque converters have the added benefit of also being buttery smooth when they want to, something that dual clutches still have trouble with. Once dual clutches can be as smooth as TC autos, then it's a no brainer to go with a dual clutch.

Yea I can hear the difference now, its subtle but its there, the DCT or PDK for example is absolutely instant. The TQ ZF doesn't seem to react as hard or quickly after a gear change as the PDK under hard accelerating.

Sidenote: It took me almost forever to find a video with a Auto Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio. I'm looking at you TOYOTA!

 

[Lexusisf]

To answer the question who is driving...maybe the Stig....lol

 

[Guff]

Yea I can hear the difference now, its subtle but its there, the DCT or PDK for example is absolutely instant. The TQ ZF doesn't seem to react as hard or quickly after a gear change as the PDK under hard accelerating.

Sidenote: It took me almost forever to find a video with a Auto Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio. I'm looking at you TOYOTA!

Fwiw, they don't sell the Alfa with a manual in North America either...

 

[Timster1990]

naturally the next question I asked myself was DCT vs ZF8..the M5 is apparently ditching the DCT for a ZF8

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=181&t=1662047

So here is an interesting forum thread in case anyone is interested in learning, M5 owners discussing the difference. One M5 owner actually said he went to drive the Alfa that has the ZF8, went in thinking he wouldn't like it and left actually really liking it. So maybe this will put manual owners at ease. Doubtful but it does put me at ease.

 

[MA617M]

I might just have to throw a sequential from work in my SPX then

 

[Lexusisf]

Here is a up close and personal view of the Supra. Skip to 6:23

It has different wheels (18")

Red Interior

Automatic (BMW style as we all know)

Round steering wheel (I'm disappointed that it's not a flat bottom)

Tire Sizes

Michelin Pilot Super Sport

Front : 255/40R18

Rear : 275/40R18

Thanks for the vid!

 

[solidsamir]

BMW interior is much better than a traditional toyota interior...also the BMW infotainment system is far better than Toyota's and Lexus's. I think the interior is ideal.

 

[Lexusisf]

The BMW interior is probably better but Toyota is fine and not as important to me. However your right, the infotainment and tools to navigate it are much better in the BMW.

 

[Modal170]

The BMW interior is probably better but Toyota is fine and not as important to me. However your right, the infotainment and tools to navigate it are much better in the BMW.

Imagine Toyota makes a trim of the supra like this

https://www.carscoops.com/2012/02/only-in-japan-new-stripped-down-toyota/

Just to appease track drivers and motorists where they can cut all the bs except for the safety features.

Would sell like hotcakes.

 

[Lexusisf]

Cool...

 

[Bakerr6]

Imagine Toyota makes a trim of the supra like this

https://www.carscoops.com/2012/02/only-in-japan-new-stripped-down-toyota/

Just to appease track drivers and motorists where they can cut all the bs except for the safety features.

Would sell like hotcakes.

I feel like the first gen 86 like the one I have is already pretty stripped down. I'd be hard pressed to see what else is gone.

 

[Modal170]

I feel like the first gen 86 like the one I have is already pretty stripped down. I'd be hard pressed to see what else is gone.

Infotainment, paint, I also think air conditioning.

About 50lbs reduced from what's already there.

 

[Lexusisf]

Ya for a track car makes sence to remove as much weight as possible...maybe the GRMN version?

 

[SS09ER]

BMW interior is much better than a traditional toyota interior...also the BMW infotainment system is far better than Toyota's and Lexus's. I think the interior is ideal.

The interior reminds me a mix of bmw and FT1

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