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Price isn't loaded in Canada from Toyota yet unfortunately.

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All I will say is this: If camber is what you're looking for, don't bother with new knuckles. Just buy some camber plates or coilovers. The geometry alterations will be negligible and the cost will be much more reasonable, not to mention labor to install them.
Thanks. I have other considerations for using these in particular.
 

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Generally speaking they're for small adjustments in the factory range, not for actually changing the camber. I haven't seen the M2 knuckle information, but I assume they're probably similar.

For the Supra:
LH Side
Standard - 43212-WAA01 (BMW 3121 6 878 613)
-30' (-0.50Ā°) - 43212-WAA02 (BMW 3121 6 877 201)
+30' (+0.50Ā°) - 43212-WAA03 (BMW 3121 6 877 203)

RH Side
Standard - 43211-WAA01 (BMW 3121 6 878 614)
-30' (-0.50Ā°) - 43211-WAA02 (BMW 3121 6 877 202)
+30' (+0.50Ā°) - 43211-WAA03 (BMW 3121 6 877 204)

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Excellent info! This is actually what I was searching for! Thanks for posting up!
 

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McGeorge Toyota is great for ordering parts. So is Elmore Toyota and if you want OEM parts direct from Japan if the shipping works out, Amayama.

Although with the latter you there is currently no EMS shipping option so the only reliable carriers you can request with their orders (for the current time as of this posting) are Fedex or DHL. But... sometimes the total cost with shipping from them is still the cheapest.

Usually though Iā€™ll order my parts from McGeorge Toyota.
 
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2021 North American-Spec (Canada/USA/Mexico) Quick notes:

  • Full 3.0 engine model is B58B30O, replacing B58B30M.
  • Full 2.0 engine model is B46B20O.
  • 3.0 0-60 mph time is listed at 3.9 s, down from 4.1 s.
  • 2.0 0-60 mph time is listed at 5.0 s.
  • Canada/US 3.0 curb weight is listed at 3399 lbs, up from 3397 lbs.
  • Canada/US 2.0 curb weight is listed at 3181 lbs.
  • Mexico 3.0 curb weight is listed at 3318 lbs, down from 3461 lbs.
  • Canada/US 3.0 model code: DB03L-ZULA, replacing DB43L-ZRLA.
  • Canada/US 2.0 model code: DB23L-ZTLA.
  • Mexico 3.0 model code: DB01L-ZULW, replacing DB41L-ZRLW.
  • Front 2.0 brakes: 60mm piston size, 330x24mm 2-piece floating rotors
  • Rear 2.0 brakes: 42mm piston size, 330x20mm 2-piece floating rotors
  • Rear 2.0 differential is a BMW 190AL open differential with 3.15:1 final drive.
  • 2.0 Wheel Specs (F/R): 18x9.0+32/18x10.0+40 5x112 Bolt Pattern
  • 3.0 Wheel Specs (F/R): 19x9.0+32/19x10.0+40 5x112 Bolt Pattern
  • 2.0 Tire Specs (F/R): 255/40ZR18 95Y/275/40ZR18 99Y
  • 3.0 Tire Specs (F/R): 255/35ZR19 96Y XL/275/35ZR19 100Y XL
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  • Rear 2.0 differential is a BMW 190AL open differential with 3.15:1 final drive.
Thank you for the update, Jeff. So this does officially confirm that the Supra 2.0Lā€™s have an open differential and not even a traditional mechanical clutch-type or gear-type limited slip differential.

...on a $40k+ purpose built sports car.

Really, the 200hp NA GT86 6MT with its standard LSD seems like a far better value in addition to being much cheaper.

It really is the same as the MKIV Supra NA vs Turbo in this regard.

Except that even with the Supra MKIV NA there *was* the option to special order the car with a factory Torsen limited slip differential regardless of it being 5-speed manual or automatic. It was an extremely rare special order option but it was available.

And then the Torsen LSD eventually became standard equipment on MKIV NAā€™s for model year 1997 and 1998.

So maybe it really isnā€™t like the Supra MKIV NA vs Turbo in this regard and is kind of a step backwards.
 
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Yes, the 2.0 is an open diff and the 3.0 has the electronic torque vectoring LSD for North America.

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Yes, the 2.0 is an open diff and the 3.0 has the electronic torque vectoring LSD for North America.

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Do we know if any other markets that offer the 2.0L give it the option of a real mechanical/gear LSD or the electronic torque vectoring LSD?
 
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Yes, the 2.0 is available with open diff, LSD, or TVD in other markets.

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Wow... thanks Jeff. That is very disappointing for U.S. buyers.
It's pretty typical to be honest. In the US, buyers associate smaller engines with the "cheap" version, and often want the larger engine or larger car if they're going to add better options.

It's the same reason cars like the Yaris are only sold as the cheap economy version, etc. whereas in other markets people are more interested in a smaller car or one with a smaller engine with more options.

It is still a bit disappointing, but swapping in an LSD seems like it wouldn't be much work.

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2021 North American-Spec (Canada/USA/Mexico) Quick notes:

  • Full 3.0 engine model is B58B30O, replacing B58B30M.
  • Full 2.0 engine model is B46B20O.
  • 3.0 0-60 mph time is listed at 3.9 s, down from 4.1 s.
  • 2.0 0-60 mph time is listed at 5.0 s.
  • Canada/US 3.0 curb weight is listed at 3399 lbs, up from 3397 lbs.
  • Canada/US 2.0 curb weight is listed at 3181 lbs.
  • Mexico 3.0 curb weight is listed at 3318 lbs, down from 3461 lbs.
  • Canada/US 3.0 model code: DB03L-ZULA, replacing DB43L-ZRLA.
  • Canada/US 2.0 model code: DB23L-ZTLA.
  • Mexico 3.0 model code: DB01L-ZULW, replacing DB41L-ZRLW.
  • Front 2.0 brakes: 60mm piston size, 330x24mm 2-piece floating rotors
  • Rear 2.0 brakes: 42mm piston size, 330x20mm 2-piece floating rotors
  • Rear 2.0 differential is a BMW 190AL open differential with 3.15:1 final drive.
  • 2.0 Wheel Specs (F/R): 18x9.0+32/18x10.0+40 5x112 Bolt Pattern
  • 3.0 Wheel Specs (F/R): 19x9.0+32/19x10.0+40 5x112 Bolt Pattern
  • 2.0 Tire Specs (F/R): 255/40ZR18 95Y/275/40ZR18 99Y
  • 3.0 Tire Specs (F/R): 255/35ZR19 96Y XL/275/35ZR19 100Y XL
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@Jeff Lange the engine code for the 2.0 should start with B48ā€¦, not B46. This list should be updated if possible.
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