2021 Toyota Supra Reviews Compilation

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This is one of the better videos I have seen.

EDIT: it looks like someone posted this video on the thread before. Sorry about that.

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2021 Toyota Supra Review: A Former A70 Owner Wonders Who This Is For, Anyway

The new version falls short for this former die-hard Supra enthusiast.

My personal taste in cars is pretty eclectic and varied these days, but once upon a time, I was a devout Toyota Supra Enthusiast. Nowadays I putter around in old JDM vans and slammed Hondas, cruising for fun and relaxation. But I got my start in the world of speed with turbocharged straight-six power and comfort to spare.

I had a 1988 MK3 Supra Turbo Targa as my first car. It was a mile-eater; a luxuriant and capable grand-tourer that I took drifting, autocrossing, and road-tripping for thousands of miles, then drove to work every day in. It wasn’t perfect for every task, but it was good enough at everything to truly earn the moniker of a GT car. So when I stepped into the shoes of my past self as I climbed into the driver’s seat of this brand-new, MK5 2021 Toyota GR Supra 3.0, I was in full Supra fangirl mode. I was also setting myself up for disappointment.

2021 Toyota GR Supra Specs

• Base Price: $52,085
• Powertrain: 3.0-liter, twin-turbocharged inline-six | Eight-speed automatic transmission | Rear-wheel drive
• Horsepower: 382 @ 5,800 rpm
• Torque: 368 lb-ft @ 1,800 rpm
• 0-60 mph: 3.9 seconds
• Curb Weight: 3,400 pounds
• Fuel Economy: 22 mpg city | 30 highway | 25 combined
• Seats: 2
• Cargo Space: 10.2 cubic feet
• Quick Take: Toyota returned the legendary Supra name to a car that's neither a rewarding sports car nor a comfortable grand-tourer.

Outside Involvement
At this point, the story of the new Supra is well-documented: BMW platform, BMW engine, designed to be the Toyota-badged counterpart to the latest BMW Z4. The plan helped both companies keep costs down to get two new sports cars on the road at a time when that market is being swallowed up by SUVs and crossovers. But the BMW guts have never turned me off of the MK5, since Toyota’s finest work has generally included someone else’s help with the powerplant.

Dating all the way back to the 1960s, Toyota customarily worked very closely with Yamaha in its cars, such as the 2000GT, MK4 Supra, Celica GT-S. More recently, even the Lexus LFA had a Yamaha-tuned motor. The 86, of course, is largely a Subaru jam, and it’s a fun sports coupe that I have recommended to many people looking for an enthusiast-oriented daily driver. A Toyota with another manufacturer’s efforts under the hood is honestly something I look forward to. The automaker seems to do its best work when it can just focus on the handling and chassis.

So I didn't mind the BMW engine, because that company has an inarguably good track record there. And since it only comes equipped with an eight-speed automatic transmission instead of offering a three-pedal option, I expected a grand-tourer. That all makes sense. The dirty secret of the Supra line is that, at its core, it has always been touring-focused.

My MK3 wasn’t a perfect canyon carver. The steering had slop and the heft definitely made it a bit sluggish to switch directions. But I did 10-hour days of driving without soreness and with a big grin on my face as I floored it up an onramp or stomped the brakes heading into a highway exit. Despite its flaws, it was a fun car for tearing up the highway.

Armed with my experience, I approached the bright yellow Toyota I had for the day like it was a bold GT car.

Grand-Touring Dreams
I was already awed by the styling as I walked up. Supras are at their best when they scream for attention. There’s a reason so many Supra owners are so closely intertwined with their cars. It’s why I was a Supra owner. It's the kind of car that becomes less of a means of getting around and more of a personality attribute. Get it in the eye-catching yellow! Put the burbling, deep exhaust on it! Let the turbo sing as you rip through the tach!

A Supra has nothing to be shy of in the same way that Wayne Gretsky doesn’t have to pretend he was just an okay ice skater. In 43 years of existence, the Supra has proven itself plenty. I was sold that, at the very least, Toyota grasped this. The styling on the MK5 is divisive but it is not conservative. It lives up to that name.

And so I got in and pulled off the one-party trick this car has completely nailed—riotous, absurd acceleration with instant torque—and was immediately nailed with the infamous wind buffeting because I was foolish enough to have the windows down on a gorgeous morning in a grand-tourer. I rolled up the windows begrudgingly. Alright, that was something I'd read about. I didn’t expect it to be that bad, but whatever.

The suspension felt a bit stiff and putting it into Sport mode made the ZF eight-speed gearbox's shifts seem incredibly aggressive, so maybe I should have approached it more like a sports coupe rather than a grand-tourer. This wasn’t my expectation, but sure, let’s evaluate it as a sports car instead. To better illuminate this newfound revelation, I tossed the car into some corners.

Trying Out the Sporty Side
Right away, I noticed I could hardly see the corner coming because the greenhouse made an armored personnel carrier look airy. Not a great sign. And once I finally threw it into the turn, the steering was… not there. Numb. There was very little communication. It reminded me more of mediocre rental cars than it did any actual sports car, modern or classic. Don’t get me wrong—it was definitely responsive to the idea of turning and it had buckets of grip. But, God, it had too much grip.

High-speed cornering heroics will require a Senna-esque commitment. If you want to wring every last drop of handling prowess out of it, you would need to be at the very limits of human ability. This would have been less of a problem if the steering feedback didn’t feel like it was designed by an anesthesiologist. Put it this way: It’s a bit hard to be confident mid-corner when it feels like you’ve been sitting on your hands for an hour before you grab the wheel.

This particular gearbox is about as good as modern automatics get, but it's just no replacement for the proper manual that should be in a two-seat, two-door sporting car. I didn't find shifting with the paddles to have the level of involvement I'd want in a car like this. And sadly, leaving the computer up to its own judgment for gears was never satisfying, either. Putting it in Sport mode made it hyper-aggressive and poised for the limit, which required clinical insanity to approach in this car on public roads.

https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/4...rmer-a70-owner-wonders-who-this-is-for-anyway

 

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2021 Toyota Supra Review: A Former A70 Owner Wonders Who This Is For, Anyway

The new version falls short for this former die-hard Supra enthusiast.

My personal taste in cars is pretty eclectic and varied these days, but once upon a time, I was a devout Toyota Supra Enthusiast. Nowadays I putter around in old JDM vans and slammed Hondas, cruising for fun and relaxation. But I got my start in the world of speed with turbocharged straight-six power and comfort to spare.

I had a 1988 MK3 Supra Turbo Targa as my first car. It was a mile-eater; a luxuriant and capable grand-tourer that I took drifting, autocrossing, and road-tripping for thousands of miles, then drove to work every day in. It wasn’t perfect for every task, but it was good enough at everything to truly earn the moniker of a GT car. So when I stepped into the shoes of my past self as I climbed into the driver’s seat of this brand-new, MK5 2021 Toyota GR Supra 3.0, I was in full Supra fangirl mode. I was also setting myself up for disappointment.

2021 Toyota GR Supra Specs

• Base Price: $52,085
• Powertrain: 3.0-liter, twin-turbocharged inline-six | Eight-speed automatic transmission | Rear-wheel drive
• Horsepower: 382 @ 5,800 rpm
• Torque: 368 lb-ft @ 1,800 rpm
• 0-60 mph: 3.9 seconds
• Curb Weight: 3,400 pounds
• Fuel Economy: 22 mpg city | 30 highway | 25 combined
• Seats: 2
• Cargo Space: 10.2 cubic feet
• Quick Take: Toyota returned the legendary Supra name to a car that's neither a rewarding sports car nor a comfortable grand-tourer.

Outside Involvement
At this point, the story of the new Supra is well-documented: BMW platform, BMW engine, designed to be the Toyota-badged counterpart to the latest BMW Z4. The plan helped both companies keep costs down to get two new sports cars on the road at a time when that market is being swallowed up by SUVs and crossovers. But the BMW guts have never turned me off of the MK5, since Toyota’s finest work has generally included someone else’s help with the powerplant.

Dating all the way back to the 1960s, Toyota customarily worked very closely with Yamaha in its cars, such as the 2000GT, MK4 Supra, Celica GT-S. More recently, even the Lexus LFA had a Yamaha-tuned motor. The 86, of course, is largely a Subaru jam, and it’s a fun sports coupe that I have recommended to many people looking for an enthusiast-oriented daily driver. A Toyota with another manufacturer’s efforts under the hood is honestly something I look forward to. The automaker seems to do its best work when it can just focus on the handling and chassis.

So I didn't mind the BMW engine, because that company has an inarguably good track record there. And since it only comes equipped with an eight-speed automatic transmission instead of offering a three-pedal option, I expected a grand-tourer. That all makes sense. The dirty secret of the Supra line is that, at its core, it has always been touring-focused.

My MK3 wasn’t a perfect canyon carver. The steering had slop and the heft definitely made it a bit sluggish to switch directions. But I did 10-hour days of driving without soreness and with a big grin on my face as I floored it up an onramp or stomped the brakes heading into a highway exit. Despite its flaws, it was a fun car for tearing up the highway.

Armed with my experience, I approached the bright yellow Toyota I had for the day like it was a bold GT car.

Grand-Touring Dreams
I was already awed by the styling as I walked up. Supras are at their best when they scream for attention. There’s a reason so many Supra owners are so closely intertwined with their cars. It’s why I was a Supra owner. It's the kind of car that becomes less of a means of getting around and more of a personality attribute. Get it in the eye-catching yellow! Put the burbling, deep exhaust on it! Let the turbo sing as you rip through the tach!

A Supra has nothing to be shy of in the same way that Wayne Gretsky doesn’t have to pretend he was just an okay ice skater. In 43 years of existence, the Supra has proven itself plenty. I was sold that, at the very least, Toyota grasped this. The styling on the MK5 is divisive but it is not conservative. It lives up to that name.

And so I got in and pulled off the one-party trick this car has completely nailed—riotous, absurd acceleration with instant torque—and was immediately nailed with the infamous wind buffeting because I was foolish enough to have the windows down on a gorgeous morning in a grand-tourer. I rolled up the windows begrudgingly. Alright, that was something I'd read about. I didn’t expect it to be that bad, but whatever.

The suspension felt a bit stiff and putting it into Sport mode made the ZF eight-speed gearbox's shifts seem incredibly aggressive, so maybe I should have approached it more like a sports coupe rather than a grand-tourer. This wasn’t my expectation, but sure, let’s evaluate it as a sports car instead. To better illuminate this newfound revelation, I tossed the car into some corners.

Trying Out the Sporty Side
Right away, I noticed I could hardly see the corner coming because the greenhouse made an armored personnel carrier look airy. Not a great sign. And once I finally threw it into the turn, the steering was… not there. Numb. There was very little communication. It reminded me more of mediocre rental cars than it did any actual sports car, modern or classic. Don’t get me wrong—it was definitely responsive to the idea of turning and it had buckets of grip. But, God, it had too much grip.

High-speed cornering heroics will require a Senna-esque commitment. If you want to wring every last drop of handling prowess out of it, you would need to be at the very limits of human ability. This would have been less of a problem if the steering feedback didn’t feel like it was designed by an anesthesiologist. Put it this way: It’s a bit hard to be confident mid-corner when it feels like you’ve been sitting on your hands for an hour before you grab the wheel.

This particular gearbox is about as good as modern automatics get, but it's just no replacement for the proper manual that should be in a two-seat, two-door sporting car. I didn't find shifting with the paddles to have the level of involvement I'd want in a car like this. And sadly, leaving the computer up to its own judgment for gears was never satisfying, either. Putting it in Sport mode made it hyper-aggressive and poised for the limit, which required clinical insanity to approach in this car on public roads.

https://www.thedrive.com/new-cars/4...rmer-a70-owner-wonders-who-this-is-for-anyway

Total garbage.

 

[redspencer]

2021 GTR vs 2021 GR Supra:

 

[BimYotaZupra]

 

[Camus]

2021 GTR vs 2021 GR Supra:

I wish people race GTRs with tuned Supras. I know that even with Downpipe and 93 tune, the GTR will gap the Supra in the top end, but an E30/E50 tune will gap the GTR.

 

[supraboi]

 

[redspencer]

A glowing review of the 2021 GR Supra, especially against its competition.

 

[Paolo]

Sexc Amelia.
Love the skirt....

 

[Paolo]

 

[MisterSkiz]

Total garbage.

" Nowadays I putter around in old JDM vans and slammed Hondas, cruising for fun and relaxation. "

Stopped reading right there to be honest.

 

[supraboi]

 

[Grady60]

https://outofspecstudios.com/reviews/2021/6/20/2021-toyota-supra-2s-company-3s-a-crowd?format=amp
I think this is a really good review. Better than most automag reviews.

 

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