Do you guys think doing a partial unlock will ever become more affordable and be done in the US?

[Diablo]

Never list the time out! You'll jinx yourself! You can do it!

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[Carl - Driveway Labs]

Have you seen the "stfu Carl" website?

 

[Diablo]

Have you seen the "stfu Carl" website?

Didn’t know that was a thing?! That’s outstanding!

 

[D K]

I have my car unlocked with the customROM by BM3 - going to add the flex fuel module by them as well eventually.

If you are in any state where emissions is validating the checksum of your ECU, you need to look into tuning more as most of them will change the checksum, or if you flash back to stock will not return the checksum to the OEM value - your only alterantive at that point is to get a reflash/lock from Toyota and then do the Femto send off all over again.......OR get a secondary ECU and run ECUTEK.

According to Femto, factory DME checksum is preserved/saved as part of the unlocking process.

This is in the context of bench unlock and using BM3 CustomRom. I would agree that the safest and full proof way to pass would be cloning.

 

[D K]

So who holds the security keys that prevent access/bench unlock for post 6/20 ecus? Bosch or Bosch and BMW/Toyota?

The Russians in Finland

 

[Cyph]

Macs are expensive, a90s are affordable somewhat. Why take priority on super cars when ya can make more on the a90’s!

 

[bushido]

Macs are expensive, a90s are affordable somewhat. Why take priority on super cars when ya can make more on the a90’s!

damn. tru

 

[EddieNel]

I’m still not understanding the cloning. What’s the point in cloning if I can ship my ecm to Femto and install bm3 for $2500?

 

[SupraTR]

I’m still not understanding the cloning. What’s the point in cloning if I can ship my ecm to Femto and install bm3 for $2500?

The purpose is so you can ecutek, which is going to have more features than even the latest bm3 and some top tuners apparently prefer. My understanding is that for 99% of users, bm3 is sufficient and the whole "get an early ecu and clone" exercise is unnecessary.

 

[D K]

The purpose is so you can ecutek, which is going to have more features than even the latest bm3 and some top tuners apparently prefer. My understanding is that for 99% of users, bm3 is sufficient and the whole "get an early ecu and clone" exercise is unnecessary.

Cloning doesn't seem all that necessary anymore with new features being unlocked by BM3 and MHD on every release. As you said, most people will get everything they need without a clone, ecutek, and tune. There are others who may want to preserve their factory ECUs for state inspection/smog check reasons. Aside from that, I'm not seeing any pressing need to clone unless you're planning on making 1000+ whp.

 

[Thraxbert]

Cloning doesn't seem all that necessary anymore with new features being unlocked by BM3 and MHD on every release. As you said, most people will get everything they need without a clone, ecutek, and tune. There are others who may want to preserve their factory ECUs for state inspection/smog check reasons. Aside from that, I'm not seeing any pressing need to clone unless you're planning on making 1000+ whp.

Anyone who wants to make more than about 600.

 

[EddieNel]

Ok which is it?

 

[D K]

Ok which is it?

What are your power goals? With other power mods like flex fuel, DP, PI, upgraded turbo, and/or intake manifold, 600+ whp is absolutely attainable with just BM3.

 

[EddieNel]

What are your power goals? With other power mods like flex fuel, DP, PI, upgraded turbo, and/or intake manifold, 600+ whp is absolutely attainable with just BM3.

That is exactly where I’m going. What about adding or going to a bigger fuel pump. I would like 550ish on 93 gas.

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