Half the Price of a Base 911... More Than Half the Fun?

[razorlab]

Not to derail thread, just out of curiosity, what is the average range price for track insurance? Been wanting to try tracking and just curious. Thanks!

Depends on coverage. I insure $65k and it’s $360 an event. So if you do two days with the same organizer it’s the best deal.

They also have yearly packages which I will do next year. I’ve done 19 events this year. It adds up.

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[romanLegion9574]

At the bare minimum, I wouldn't go to a new track without insurance.

 

[romanLegion9574]

350-459 weekend

Same here. It depends on the deductible you choose and your self-valuation of your car.

 

[SuupYota]

Thanks everyone for your input! Much appreciated!

 

[digicidal]

Despite liking both cars - it has much more to do with what you blew the other half of the money on... Of course, I'm in the minority being someone who's much more interested in the Cayman and would only want a 911 if it was from the decade I was born in.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Not to derail thread, just out of curiosity, what is the average range price for track insurance? Been wanting to try tracking and just curious. Thanks!

If you just want to get out there and try a HPDE, I couldn't imagine you needing it. Like most insurance, they make a shit ton off it because a payout is so rare. But if you drive with a really good safe group, such as Chin Track Days | The Leader in High Performance Driving Education , or a similar mega safe reputable (non-racing) driving education group in your area. You'll have a blast! I've driven off track, hit tires, spun out, broke some things but never came close to totaling my car. You'll get the feel for when you are pushing your personal limits after more experience. Then you might want to consider it. Also, if there are "Chets" out there going recklessly balls out, they will get black flagged and pulled in or even kicked out. Of course, crazy ass shit could happen in anything we do in life. Totally up to your own personal risk: reward ratio. I haven't bought it a day yet. But I've always been able to afford to pay for the cars I was driving. Not driving a 911 or Ferrari on track helps ?. And those peeps can afford to buy another...

 

[SuupYota]

If you just want to get out there and try a HPDE, I couldn't imagine you needing it. Like most insurance, they make a shit ton off it because a payout is so rare. But if you drive with a really good safe group, such as Chin Track Days | The Leader in High Performance Driving Education , or a similar mega safe reputable (non-racing) driving education group in your area. You'll have a blast! I've driven off track, hit tires, spun out, broke some things but never came close to totaling my car. You'll get the feel for when you are pushing your personal limits after more experience. Then you might want to consider it. Also, if there are "Chets" out there going recklessly balls out, they will get black flagged and pulled in or even kicked out. Of course, crazy ass shit could happen in anything we do in life. Totally up to your own personal risk: reward ratio. I haven't bought it a day yet. But I've always been able to afford to pay for the cars I was driving. Not driving a 911 or Ferrari on track helps ?. And those peeps can afford to buy another...

I did the HPDE offered with the Supra. I really enjoyed it! I did the one when I briefly owned an Abarth as well. I definitely would love to get out there and take some classes and get more into the track scene for sure. Thanks for all info! It's good to know the "chets" or "tanners" will not be tolerated, haha. That is my concern is for other people being reckless as well.

 

[gcurnew]

Late to this thread, but here goes. We currently have a 2020 992 C4 I bought new (now has 40,000 km, 37,500 or so put on by me) and a 2022 Supra 3.0.

The Supra was bought to serve as my wife's DD commuter car; about 8 km each way to/from her work. In pretty short order, she found the rear end a bit "lively" when driven with verve compared to the 992 (which she also drives pretty hard BTW). Bottom line: the Supra is now my DD and has about 4,000 KM.

For my money, the 992 can be a bit TOO composed, TOO capable on the street compared to the Supra. The 911 never breaks a sweat or puts a tire wrong and even the most ham-fisted driver can come away from a spirited drive thinking "dang, I'm good." As all here know, the Supra rewards smoothness and a sensitive right foot, especially coming in/out hard out of corners on less-than-perfect asphalt.

My read is the Supra is 100% as entertaining and enjoyable a street car in about 85% of conditions compared to a base (or C4) 992. Those 15% of conditions where the 911 outshines the Supra are generally when the car is being driven at near-stupid speeds on mountain twisties, where the chassis composure. more communicative steering and (slightly) better brakes take the car to the next level.

One area the Supra consistently lags behind the 992 is the gearbox. I always, 100% of the time drive the Supra and the 992 in manual mode, using the paddles. The PDK in the Porsche is sublime; the ZF 8-speed is nearly as brilliant going up the gears, but can be clunky coming down, especially downshifting from 5-4 and 4-3.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Late to this thread, but here goes. We currently have a 2020 992 C4 I bought new (now has 40,000 km, 37,500 or so put on by me) and a 2022 Supra 3.0.

The Supra was bought to serve as my wife's DD commuter car; about 8 km each way to/from her work. In pretty short order, she found the rear end a bit "lively" when driven with verve compared to the 992 (which she also drives pretty hard BTW). Bottom line: the Supra is now my DD and has about 4,000 KM.

For my money, the 992 can be a bit TOO composed, TOO capable on the street compared to the Supra. The 911 never breaks a sweat or puts a tire wrong and even the most ham-fisted driver can come away from a spirited drive thinking "dang, I'm good." As all here know, the Supra rewards smoothness and a sensitive right foot, especially coming in/out hard out of corners on less-than-perfect asphalt.

My read is the Supra is 100% as entertaining and enjoyable a street car in about 85% of conditions compared to a base (or C4) 992. Those 15% of conditions where the 911 outshines the Supra are generally when the car is being driven at near-stupid speeds on mountain twisties, where the chassis composure. more communicative steering and (slightly) better brakes take the car to the next level.

One area the Supra consistently lags behind the 992 is the gearbox. I always, 100% of the time drive the Supra and the 992 in manual mode, using the paddles. The PDK in the Porsche is sublime; the ZF 8-speed is nearly as brilliant going up the gears, but can be clunky coming down, especially downshifting from 5-4 and 4-3.

Great review! If you want to drive the Supra at the “limits” more, may want to consider the SPL parts upgrade. It’s would be overkill on the streets. But if you want to track her a bit…. worth consideration ?

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