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When I was younger I threw mods and wrench time at my cars. I love spinning wrenches, and I learned a lot about working on cars. I really did some really fun mods to my cars, but everything I did lacked a clear direction.

I got into SCCA Auto-X and actually ended up undoing several of the mods I had done to my car at the time. Even then I ended up a complete novice in STU class getting my ass stomped. Driving the car fast in a competitive environment was a real eye opener about wasting money on useless shit.

The modifications I'm making to my Supra now are specifically to improve performance on track for HPDEs and eventually time attack (maybe).

First and foremost, I'm buying seat time and professional instruction. I'm spending way more time and money on that than any modifications to the car. I've done several events with the car completely stock and fried the tires and brakes.

Right now I'm doing some of the least glamorous mods possible on my Supra, but these mods will make it more suitable for repeated track days. Pads, brake fluid, better motor oil, sway bars, wheels, SPL parts for camber/caster adjustability in front and toe control in the rear. All of this so I can run 275 square 200tw tires that I can rotate. I'm not lowering it. It has the stock exhaust and intake. It has no aesthetic mods, nor any interior mods other than coding out some of the really annoying crap (fake engine noise, etc.).

The excitement of driving on track keeps the car extremely exciting and fresh. The Supra is a beast in motorsports. Greatest of all, no speeding tickets on the track or the strip.
Holy crap you’ve done your homework! This is so spot on…. The Supra is so capable on track. It’s really the driver. That’s an obvious one and will make you fast as hell on track. And no arguments on other crap for making this car ā€œmore fun.ā€œ I have a custom JB4 map for in town fun (can turn it off and on - so cool), SPL parts to feel every damn pebble on the road, a loud ass exhaust to make my wife proud, and a catless dp so she can breath freely - helps in Florida heat.

This car is incredibly capable with seat time and fun. Thatā€˜s where the focus should be for anyone. Toyota gave us a free track day for a reason. Think of it as your 1st date with a supermodel ? You can always dress her up after that.
 

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Agree with some other people, interesting to hear thoughts, I only drive the Supra once every 7-14 days on average, so every time it's an experience and I am super excited for it. It's always washed and put in the garage before the next drive, so when they day comes, it's shiny and ready to go out, the neighbors are always mirin.
I drive a crappy fiat we got as a daily, so as others said it really is about "getting used" to power.
I 100% know that if I daily'd the Supra the power would not feel as exciting very quickly, but coming from a little hatchback, the Supra always feels like a rocket ship or a speedboat.
What I really need, is more sound, but can't commit to tuning yet...

@OP: what I learned is in summary, if you're writing this post and you feel that way, chances are you already decided/know what you want/need, ultimately it's fun to hear what others say on the forums but only you can really know what makes you happy, so go for it! ?
 

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I daily mine + have taken it to the track. Some mods I've done (TE's, HKS exhaust) are useless for both track and daily, but they did make me enjoy the car more visually and audibly. The Ohlin's I got drastically improved the ride sitting in traffic, spirited driving, and Id guess the track (havent done a track day since install). CSG CP pads, Goodridge lines, and SRF fluid are getting installed next week which should also have a drastic effect on all three. On the topic of getting used to the power that is true, I remember going from a FBO WRX to this stock, it was wild how stable, fast, and agile it was, now Im used to it but I dont actually crave more. The only things I plan on doing are aero, bucket seats, and seat time.
 
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So a day after I made this post I ended up buying a Mazda 3 hatchback as a daily and it has definitely eased my stress of driving the Supra to work every day. The Mazda is a neat little car but the contrast between it and the Supra is immense haha, you can feel why it’s 2x the cost.

i have been leaning towards lately, skipping a catback exhaust for now and doing catless dp+femto unlock+ots tune. I think this is most economical way to get what I’m looking for out of this car. Cat backs are so damn much $$$ lol.

Can anyone comment on a 93 octane ots tune on stock tires? Do I need to upgraded at least the rears to not be in spin city?
 

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So a day after I made this post I ended up buying a Mazda 3 hatchback as a daily and it has definitely eased my stress of driving the Supra to work every day. The Mazda is a neat little car but the contrast between it and the Supra is immense haha, you can feel why it’s 2x the cost.

i have been leaning towards lately, skipping a catback exhaust for now and doing catless dp+femto unlock+ots tune. I think this is most economical way to get what I’m looking for out of this car. Cat backs are so damn much $$$ lol.

Can anyone comment on a 93 octane ots tune on stock tires? Do I need to upgraded at least the rears to not be in spin city?
I only have a JB4 custom piggyback tune for 93 octane and it’s great! Jesse can dial up or down the power to your desire. With the stock tires, there’s very little grip. But I’d rather have the power and modulate the pedal to desired effect ?
 

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Mods make it hard to look away.

Once you get rid of the height and wheel gap, the car is much better looking. A spoiler helps too!
 

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So a day after I made this post I ended up buying a Mazda 3 hatchback as a daily and it has definitely eased my stress of driving the Supra to work every day. The Mazda is a neat little car but the contrast between it and the Supra is immense haha, you can feel why it’s 2x the cost.

i have been leaning towards lately, skipping a catback exhaust for now and doing catless dp+femto unlock+ots tune. I think this is most economical way to get what I’m looking for out of this car. Cat backs are so damn much $$$ lol.

Can anyone comment on a 93 octane ots tune on stock tires? Do I need to upgraded at least the rears to not be in spin city?
Visconti tuned 93 here.

The wheels will spin in third gear, regularly. If it's cold, forgetaboutit. Stock tires will be going this summer.
 

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Nice! Yeah I am really trying to be like you and drive it stock longer and do mods one at a time so I can enjoy each one more, but like I said damn it's hard not to go hog wild right off the rip lol.

Power wise I am not looking for anything crazy, or at least I say that now who knows. But the car is already fast to me stock, I just want to get from "this thing is quick" to "holy shit it's fast" which I think upper 400s whp will be the ticket.
the ideal amount of power is 50hp more than what ever you have
 

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the ideal amount of power is 50hp more than what ever you have
Yes and no.

It is absolutely a thing to have too much power, especially on the track, and especially if you've ignored all of the other mods you need to do to support that power.

This car is so easy and cheap to make insane power with that it's easy to get to the point where the car is all but undrivable, or it's constantly breaking down.

A Pure800 car on methanol or ethanol with stock suspension/brakes/transmission is not something anyone with half a brain would suggest.
 

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This is why, now that it has MHD, the car will never be taken to the dealership for ANYTHING. In fact, I just paid for an oil change yesterday. I switched to 5x30 Liqui Moly.
I just bought the exact oil, any difference, like is the engine any quieter, less tappy!!!
 

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I just bought the exact oil, any difference, like is the engine any quieter, less tappy!!!
I don’t notice a damn thing. I’m just told it’s safer (thicker) for the hot demands on track :)
 

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I just bought the exact oil, any difference, like is the engine any quieter, less tappy!!!
I don’t notice a damn thing. I’m just told it’s safer (thicker) for the hot demands on track :)
Same. I swapped mine back in November.

I'm going to do another oil change with the Liquid Moly before my real track days begin in May.
 

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Same. I swapped mine back in November.

I'm going to do another oil change with the Liquid Moly before my real track days begin in May.
I don't even run the car that hard really but since I'm unlocking my ecu now and going with MHD tune I figured the thicker oil can't hurt.
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