Is the 2020 clear coated?

[Jeff Lange]

Toyota definitely still uses single stage for some colours (040 and 202 come to mind as A70TTR alluded to). That said, I don't believe any of the Supra colours are single stage.

Jeff

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[ec15]

040 and 202 are not single stage.
Along with the other 99.9% of paint on cars today, it is base coat/clear coat application or 2 stage paint.
Single stage has been long gone. Single stage paint does not have a clear coat on top hence "single" stage.

Do not confuse non metallic colors with single stage. Clear coat counts as a stage.
There are also 3 stage paints such as pearlescent colors which consist of a base color coat, "pearl" coat and clear coat.

 

[A70TTR]

202 and 040 do not have a seperate layer clear coat, and both colors will transfer to a pad during correction.

Jeff and I are both fully aware of what single stage is btw.

 

[ec15]

My 040 has clear. All the 040s we fix has clear. The 040 Rav4 the I just assessed has clear.

I've been in the repair industry for a long time. Modern cars use a 2 stage paint system with the exception of tri coats.

Only time I see single stage paint is if someone touched up their car or if they had some cheap body work done.
You should not have color transfer onto your pad.

 

[John8]

My 040 has clear. All the 040s we fix has clear. The 040 Rav4 the I just assessed has clear.

I've been in the repair industry for a long time. Modern cars use a 2 stage paint system with the exception of tri coats.

Only time I see single stage paint is if someone touched up their car or if they had some cheap body work done.
You should not have color transfer onto your pad.

I had color transfer but the paint job was from 1991, a redo on an Eclipse Turbo model. Held up beautiful and polished out like glass. What ever works. :^) I want something to protect the front of my car, a clear bra. Just finding out who will do a good job here in Tucson.

 

[ec15]

Older cars may have single stage. I was referring to modern cars. I had a 97 eclipse and it had clear coat.

 

[A70TTR]

It is possible that Toyota is employing a clear over those codes now, and I cant speak to that as I do not have a current 040 or 202 paint code. My ST202 and both JZA70s are 202 with paint transfer, but they're from the early to mid 90s.

I also had a kouki A80 in 040 bought in like new condition (always garaged) and it also had transfer.


The lesson here may simply be to not comment in absolutes.


EDIT: after searching for a while, it does seem that Toyota went to a two stage version of these from what appears to be the early to mid 2000s, but info is kind of all over the place. Might have to ask someone who actually knows internally.

 

[jm6k]

Tons of discussions online about Super White being single stage, but I did read on a couple of detailing forums that Toyota went to base/clear around 2015 so maybe it's been a fairly recent change.

 

[A70TTR]

Just got a reply from one of the territory managers I know; he said, he unsure of specifics but that there were a few single stage colors in use until at least 2014. A director in sales in TX also just responded that single stage white is still in use.

Some posts on other forums (2009):

Dear Mr. XXXXXXX:

Thank you for contacting Toyota Motor Sales, U.S.A., Inc.

We appreciate the opportunity to address your inquiry.

The Super White paint applied to your Tundra is a single stage paint coating. Vehicles painted with non-metallic colors have no clear coat finish. Paint colors that are available in a metallic or pearl will have a clear coat finish.

We hope this information has been helpful.

If we can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact us http://www.toyota.com/help/contactus.html.

Sincerely,

Ivette Moreno
Toyota Customer Experience

I work in the paint shop at a toyota factory, 040 super white is single stage, (no clear), on all Toyotas. Whether the black is single stage or base/clear depends on which plant the vehicle is produced at. I work at the Georgetown Ky plant (Camry, Avalon, Venza) and we use base/clear while some of the other plants do not. Why? Beats me. I've been askin that question since I've benn there, 17 years. As for the 040, It's just cheaper that way.

2016:

I called Toyota and confirmed directly from Toyota that superwhite on my 2015 4runner does not have a clear coat. It is a single stage paint with "the clear mixed in" as I was told from Toyota.

2017:

None of the other colors are single stage for the 4runner. I paint at a Toyota bodyshop.

Super white can be blended with base/clear and it should look perfectly fine if the painter is decent.

2018:

Super White still is only Single Stage paint. I have/had a letter from Toyota Corporate to prove it. this has been gone over on this forum many times. it has a mid clear mixed into the paint, but it isn't the same as spraying base coat then spraying a clear coat over it.

2019:

 

[ec15]

We get refinishing guidelines from the manufacturers and it seems Toyota's transition to base coat/ clear coat was around the mid 2000's. You can see how it changed throughout the 2000's. I am surprised how some of their cars were still single stage as you pointed out.

Here's a note from 2010:

2007:

2006:

2001:

 

[A70TTR]

that's definitely interesting and looks to explain why the information is all over the place lol

but either way, all of the mkvs should be dual stage like most everything else out there, especially since it's shot with bmw paint (supplier).

 

[ec15]

The clear coat on the MKVs look great now if only they can get the colors to match as well as Toyota does.

Hope they fix the lack of color coverage on the nocturnal plastics and match the bumper color to the hood better on the renaissance. The bumper is darker.

 

[Jeff Lange]

I looked into some various bulletins and have found that even for the same colour in the same year, Toyota would sometimes use clear and sometimes not, depending on the factory. For example, 1997 Camry with 202 = single stage, 1998 USA-made Camry with 202 = two stage. 1998 Camry made in Japan, 202 = single stage.

It does seem that over the years, clear has been added to most colours that used to be single stage. So it seems I was likely incorrect.

Jeff

 

[Waferz]

040 and 202 have been two stage for a looooooong time.....

 

[A70TTR]

Not true, 040 is in fact still single stage on at least certain vehicles (Tacoma, Tundra, and 4R for example)

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