What did you do to your Supra today?

[razorlab]

Yeah, nah. It looks shit and I literally didn't buy one because of it. I know I'm not alone. I also know you don't care.

While I understand the product itself is well designed and fit for purpose, what I won't do, is play ball and pretend the branding looks good. It really doesn't. And you're welcome for the honest feedback, which we all know you'll continue to ignore.

This guy over here unlocking free market concepts thinking nobody else figured that out yet.

You don't like, you buy something else. The people that do like, help create group buys that keep being successful.

I'm an Ive fan like others, but don't go cherry picking quotes like Apple makes 100% great design decisions. That ridiculous well hated mouse design being one of the worst.

 

[razorlab]

Active Autowerkes Dp, H&R springs, 13/15mm spacers and stock wheels from a non FE supra. Going for oem plus, the wife said it looks the same and i said EXACTLY. lol More to come too!

Huh? Aren't the wheels on the Non-FE the same design?

 

[BMWAF]

I'm an Ive fan like others, but don't go cherry picking quotes like Apple makes 100% great design decisions. That ridiculous well hated mouse design being one of the worst.

Oh for sure. Apple has their own misgivings as do some of Ives' own designs but the quote stands alone.. and I stand by it. I've ignored far better products because of poor design choices.

 

[razorlab]

Oh for sure. Apple has their own misgivings as do some of Ives' own designs but the quote stands alone.. and I stand by it. I've ignored far better products because of poor design choices.

Right, but that quote doesn't even fit your narrative. It's talking about poorly designed products. You yourself stated the product is well designed, you just hate the logo. Never mind that logo will be seen by .00001% of people once installed.

 

[BMWAF]

Right, but that quote doesn't even fit your narrative. It's talking about poorly designed products. You yourself stated the product is well designed, you just hate the logo. Never mind that logo will be seen by .00001% of people once installed.

The logo itself is a) poorly designed and b) embarrassingly just lifted from the public domain anyway. As for the quote, it applies fine to logo design, which is part of the overall product design anyway - particularly with this product, where it takes up a huge amount of space.

Aesthetically, the logo and its size are just a poor choice and calling it otherwise is doing the truth a disservice.. I don't care how many group buys are in place or ultimately how visible it is to other people.

 

[Rensuhlo]

It's been how many group buys and the same person(s) are still complaining about a logo that they feel WAY too strongly about?

Couldn't be me. Evan did more for this forum than some of you BLOKES. Yeah, I went 'stralian.

 

[razorlab]

Aesthetically, the logo and its size are just a poor choice and calling it otherwise is doing the truth a disservice.. I don't care how many group buys are in place or ultimately how visible it is to other people.

Here is the thing...

1. It's his product so he gets to make the decisions.
2. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
3. Opinions are like a*sholes.
4. The logo will be seen by almost nobody once installed. It's like crying about a logo on a piston.
5. The logo is now living rent free in your head. I'm sure he appreciates the free marketing.

 

[tuskenraider]

Huh? Aren't the wheels on the Non-FE the same design?

Non-FE wheels are gray instead of black, so it is a visual change.

5. The logo is now living rent free in your head. I'm sure he appreciates the free marketing.

You know he's so mad because he wants it so bad........and yes, I hate the logo, but bought one.

 

[mdpalmer]

New magnetic phone mount and charging cable, I have a Samsung phone with an Otterbox case, have to put magnetic ring on it so no wireless charging but short charging cable has 90* plug on it, fits real nice. The mount is suction cupped under radio and I removed the phone charging tray, of course. Wasn't sure if shift knob would bump into phone, I can confirm it doesn't. I am happy with it. Got the idea from a Facebook post, believe it or not.

visnfa for Magsafe Car Mount... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0G6D2QWQJ?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

AGOZ 6 inch 90 Degree Right Angle... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WD5TMNM?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Also, took a little trip to check out Apple Valley Speedway in high desert here in SoCal. The road leading up to track is unpaved and dirt. Sonic handled it like a champ, was afraid it would be too low but it was fine. Eibach euro spec springs, stock front lip. Car is absolutely filthy. Due for a detail. I don't know desert people deal with the dust, it would drive me nuts.

 

[johnsmither]

Non-FE wheels are gray instead of black, so it is a visual change.


You know he's so mad because he wants it so bad........and yes, I hate the logo, but bought one.

Lol it's never that deep. If you don't like the logo just powdercoat it. The product ticks off a lot of boxes already, hard to pass up. Support a member, have fun.

 

[Ecom]

If I were consulting here, I'd tell the owner to make one without a logo and increase the price on that sku. Cheaper to produce, more profit margin, happier customer base.. win/win.

 

[razorlab]

If I were consulting here, I'd tell the owner to make one without a logo and increase the price on that sku. Cheaper to produce, more profit margin, happier customer base.. win/win.

Better test would be to do that and find out the people complaining were never going to buy one to begin with.

Just like when the FE came out. The internetz is full of just talkers.

 

[angelb_af]

Huh? Aren't the wheels on the Non-FE the same design?

same design but not the same color

 

[razorlab]

same design but not the same color

Got it. So like Supra LE/A91 vs normal supra. Same design, different colors.

Speaking of which, I put four 19x10 square Supra LE wheels on my M240i.

 

[Ecom]

Better test would be to do that and find out the people complaining were never going to buy one to begin with.

Just like when the FE came out. The internetz is full of just talkers.

Some are just talkers, while some actually mean what they say, and others are quietly sitting back because they don't like conflict but would buy it without a design if it were available. To what percentage each of those groups are.. No one knows until the product comes out.