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So the fia wants to investigate the fia with the fia…. Riiiiiiight I’m sure they’ll find so many problems:doh:
Kind of like when Pirelli has to investigate why their own tires blew up during a race. That's how you end up with excuses like too much cloud cover and the car being painted the wrong color
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So the FIA is launching a formal “probe” of the Abu Dhabi incident because it’s tarnishing F1’s image. It doesn’t look like it will change the outcome of the race but I assume they will come up with a new procedure if there is a safety car with less than 5 laps left.

I don’t see how Masi continues on in his current position after this. Not sure I’d let him run a go-kart track after this season.
Honestly, I think he was doing good job until last few races starting Brazil. He should let stewards do their job and only intervene if he feels their decision is against sporting regulation.

sometimes, I feel Football (American) game or NASCAR race is much fairer than Soccer or F1 race. for example, FIFA Soccer did not allow Video review where football team can challenge the decision. rule may have changed since few years ago though..
 

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People are being ridiculous and blowing this way out of proportion.
It comes down to this: Red Bull pitted for softs, Mercedes didn't. They dropped the ball. Masi was within the rules for how he controlled the safety car. ALL teams agreed beforehand that they wanted to finish the race under green conditions.
Max had to still make the overtake on track.
Lewis has done the exact same to Max multiple times where he came through at the end on fresh tires. But then it's ok.
It doesn't matter how many laps you lead, just the last one counts. Max and Red Bull made the best of the situation, so they deserved the win. He won the most races, led the most laps, had the most poles, so he also deserves the title. Lewis lost on track. Mercedes and Wolff are showing their true nature with this nonsense. They claim they want to win on track, but now try to win in a courtroom instead. They're pathetic. What Masi did was unconventional, but not against the rules. And that's what this FIA probe is about, to make it more clear if something like this happens again. Max gets his trophy tomorrow, and that will be that.

Bring on 2022.
 
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Mercedes officially withdrew their appeal. About time. Either Jean Todt told them where to stick it, or the higher ups at Mercedes-Benz took matters into their hands. The brand wasn't looking any better with the team's principal manipulative unsportsmanlike behavior.
 

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People are being ridiculous and blowing this way out of proportion.
It comes down to this: Red Bull pitted for softs, Mercedes didn't.
I agree with this, Mercedes didn’t make the right call, heck a few laps earlier didn’t Lewis’s engineer ask which tires he wanted in the event of a safety car? Then left him on course as a sitting duck with older hards. Lewis drove an amazing race but his engineer hung him out without a chance against a car with softs in a two lap sprint.
 

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I agree with this, Mercedes didn’t make the right call, heck a few laps earlier didn’t Lewis’s engineer ask which tires he wanted in the event of a safety car? Then left him on course as a sitting duck with older hards. Lewis drove an amazing race but his engineer hung him out without a chance against a car with softs in a two lap sprint.
Im not sure I follow the reasoning here. If Mercedes brought Lewis in, RBR would’ve done the opposite and gained track position. Had Masi followed the rules, the race would’ve finished under a safety car and the move would’ve cost Lewis the championship, no?

Either way, the real issue is Masi‘s actions. Important not to lose sight of that.
 

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Im not sure I follow the reasoning here. If Mercedes brought Lewis in, RBR would’ve done the opposite and gained track position. Had Masi followed the rules, the race would’ve finished under a safety car and the move would’ve cost Lewis the championship, no?

Either way, the real issue is Masi‘s actions. Important not to lose sight of that.
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Im not sure I follow the reasoning here. If Mercedes brought Lewis in, RBR would’ve done the opposite and gained track position. Had Masi followed the rules, the race would’ve finished under a safety car and the move would’ve cost Lewis the championship, no?

Either way, the real issue is Masi‘s actions. Important not to lose sight of that.
had Merc pitted for softs and RB stayed out Lewis would be in P2 with a better car, and soft tires, he would have the advantage IMO, had both pitted right away both would have softs, the race for position would be in the pits with Lewis a slight advantage as he had position on track. Instead Merc put Lewis in a position where the P2 car was on faster tires than them for a 2 lap sprint.

why did Lewis’s engineer ask what tires he wanted in the event of a safety car then leave him out?
 

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Im not sure I follow the reasoning here. If Mercedes brought Lewis in, RBR would’ve done the opposite and gained track position. Had Masi followed the rules, the race would’ve finished under a safety car and the move would’ve cost Lewis the championship, no?

Either way, the real issue is Masi‘s actions. Important not to lose sight of that.
The rules were followed. That's why the stewards threw out the appeals. That's why Toto begged for no Safety Car, because he knew what could happen. Mercedes had the better car, and Red Bull beat them on strategy.
 

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I agree with Anthony on Hamilton's act. Further more, what Anthony Hamilton did proves that sweet fruit comes from sweet tree. They were so gracious and worthy of knighthood.
Yeah I'm gonna call BS on that, for a few reasons.

1. When Lewis was being "gracious" all eyes were on him. All the camera's, everything. And we all know how much Lewis loves the spotlight.
2. Instead of pulling onto the grid after the race in the P2 spot, he parked it in the pit, and he knows damn well he's supposed to go to grid. When he's P1, he somehow gets it.
3. He wasn't at the press conference after the podium, or in the media pen after that, both of which are obligations.
4. He is obligated to go to the prize giving gala by the sporting rules, all top 3 drivers of every class have to, but he didn't go. (Going back to the before camera's point) And he could face penalties/fines for not doing so.

His dad was excellent. Went to Jos and Max and congratulated them on a well earned title. He knows what it takes.

Lewis, like I said, before camera's. As soon as they were off him.... Not so much. Or Toto, or Mercedes for that matter.

His brother, yapping on how "great" and "humble" the Hamiltons are, if they were so humble, he wouldn't have made that post to begin with.

So yeah, bunch of BS.

Their dad, awesome. I'm happy for their mother too, she got to see her son knighted and meet the Royal family.

Lewis' and Toto's actions spoke a lot louder than their words. Especially Lewis. There were little go-kart champions that would've loved to have met him, 1 even said he was his hero. But it was more important to Lewis to sulk. All the other drivers went to the 7 galas he got presented the trophy right? I bet Massa was there when he lost the title on the last lap. Jean Todt retired, a legend of the sport. Mercedes won the constructors, but that didn't matter.

So to me, that's the true nature coming out.
 
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Lewis is just mad because Russell is about to expose how average of a driver he really is. His time at the top is done.

Let's not forget that there was talk about Lewis not wanting to come back next year, all because he "can't get over what happened on the last race".

I'm sorry, you signed a 2 year contract to race. Now you suddenly don't want to because things didn't go your way, yeah leave the sport dude. F1 doesn't need that kind of driver.

Toto can leave too, dude says he wants to let the track do the talking, and then proceeds to threaten court battles...honestly.
 

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Exactly.

Russell has been walking, talking, and posting like a good Mercedes lapdog so he'll be just like Bottas if Hamilton is still around. He's been properly groomed and instructed by Toto. He won't dare to take points off Hamilton. If Hamilton retires, that'll be icing on the cake. Toto will soon follow.
 

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Hopefully the rumours are true that merc are quite a bit ahead in development with the new car than other teams that they’ll mop the floor with the cry babies again. Given Merc didn’t even use any tokens this year next years car should be a rocket.
 

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Hopefully the rumours are true that merc are quite a bit ahead in development with the new car than other teams that they’ll mop the floor with the cry babies again. Given Merc didn’t even use any tokens this year next years car should be a rocket.
That's how Hamilton likes it :rofl: a car so fast he can just cruise out in front without competition.
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