Dannyvandelft
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Obviously it wasn't. It was decided by pit strategy.
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VA90
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It’s sad but yeah it’s way, way beyond time for Monaco to go. But too much money at stake for F1 to do the right thing and retire Monaco.
Burgerman
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I think I heard a commentary about it probably 15 or 20 years ago.
It’s not about the race, but the deals that are done because of all of the wealth in one place at the same time.
It’s not about the race, but the deals that are done because of all of the wealth in one place at the same time.
gixxersixxerman
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did I misunderstand the commentators today? It sounded like Monaco isn’t worked out for the future?
this was one of the better Monaco GP’s that I can think of, but only because weather affected it. Racing wasn’t great, besides Gasly when he changed to inters. I don’t recall who he was trying to pass, but once by half a lap later he was already 4 seconds ahead, just shows how bad passing is when you have a way way faster car.
Happy for Perez, happy for Sainz also.
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Not this time obviously, or in 2016. But generally it's decided in qualifying.
VA90
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Yes, the commentators did say that. Monaco has some unique deals around advertising and TV coverage that other tracks don't get, which is an annoyance to F1/Liberty. Plus their hosting fee is cheap compared to what other countries pay. I tend to think the public statements are posturing to work out a better financial deal in Liberty's favor. But at the end of the day, the racing there is trash. No great shakes to me if F1 never goes there again, whereas losing Spa or Silverstone would be a travesty. It's already pretty ridiculous there won't be a French Grand Prix and Germany is every other year.
Burgerman
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Remember when Mercedes had to buy tickets just to get the German GP to sell out? How about the time that Seb was leading the drivers points going into the German GP AND Merc was leading the constructors and they still couldn’t sell out? Three reasons: 1) high ticket prices 2) higher fan expectations 3) waning interest in the German audience as a whole.
F1 will always follow the money. When I started watching in the early ‘80’s, Bernie and Max would have never dreamed of Saudi Arabia or Vietnam, and when they thought about Miami, it was Cocaine and retirees.
F1 will always follow the money. When I started watching in the early ‘80’s, Bernie and Max would have never dreamed of Saudi Arabia or Vietnam, and when they thought about Miami, it was Cocaine and retirees.
VA90
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Good points. Chalk it up to my feeling a certain kind of way about no F1 in Germany...
Either way, Monaco has outlived its usefulness as a points race. Great spectacle, terrible "racing". Maybe make it an exhibition or something.
Great article in The Race today about Jos complaining behind the scenes about RB unfairly favoring Checo at Monaco. Then RB goes and inks Checo for another two years. ? Definitely the right call extending him though.
Dannyvandelft
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The Race ??? might as well read National Enquirer.
That's not what Jos said at all. He said as a biased father (obviously) he would've liked to have seen the strategy in Max's favor, him being the Champion and the points leader. What father wouldn't? He said Perez did a great job.
I read the column of Jos in Dutch, so there's nothing lost in translation and nothing interpreted differently just for clicks, like "The Race" all too often does.
That's not what Jos said at all. He said as a biased father (obviously) he would've liked to have seen the strategy in Max's favor, him being the Champion and the points leader. What father wouldn't? He said Perez did a great job.
I read the column of Jos in Dutch, so there's nothing lost in translation and nothing interpreted differently just for clicks, like "The Race" all too often does.
nibble
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I'm just glad that sainz was 2nd place between checo & max. otherwise, it would've been max's win and checo 2nd. no win for checo. 
And I feel for leclare... twice denied win on his home GP..
And I feel for leclare... twice denied win on his home GP..
Dannyvandelft
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Nonsense. Red Bull isn't Mercedes. Checo still had to pit in Barcelona, so the win for him was never on. People forget that tiny little tidbit. They didn't want them fighting, because the cars were on the limit temperature wise.I'm just glad that sainz was 2nd place between checo & max. otherwise, it would've been max's win and checo 2nd. no win for checo.
Leclerc didn't get denied last year, he stuffed it into the wall. Own stupid fault. This year he could've dictated his own strategy, like Carlos did, and could've done better. Instead he lost his shit on the radio. The pressure is already getting to him, and he's not dealing with it very well.
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