Running 5x114.3 Wheels on an A90 Supra is Possible

[Twundy]

So apparently with just a 14x1.25 to 12x1.5 stud conversion kit like this or this and 12x1.5 lug nuts, you can squeeze on 5x114.3 wheels on to our 5x112 Supra bolt pattern. Someone just successfully did so via Facebook (Instagram @remraf_mk5):

Since 5x114.3 is only a hair away from 5x112 so for some years people have been using wobble bolts to run those wheels. However, for the MKV Supra's 14x1.25 lug thread, there aren't any wobble bolts, so most people haven't run them. But now apparently with just a stud conversion that's a slightly smaller stud diameter, it seems that gives just the right amount of wiggle room to make it work - this is basically the same concept as a wobble bolt but in reverse. Should also make sure that the hub bore is equal to or greater than (with hubcentric rings) than our 66.6mm, and that the stud conversion and lugs are properly torqued (maybe throw on some Loctite on the stud to hub threads for peace of mind). This gives a whole lot more options for possible Supra wheels.

Thoughts? Any risks from an engineering standpoint, such as the wheels not being properly secured and seated?

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[gixxersixxerman]

I personally wouldn’t have a issue running this. I’d change my torque from 95ftlbs to 80ftlbs like most 12m studs/lugnut. I’ve ran wobble bolts before without issue.. That said I wouldn’t track a vehicle like that and would make sure like you said I had a proper hub centric ring if needed.

 

[superd6199]

https://vargasturbo.com/product/bmw-toyota-5x112-to-5x114-wheel-stud-conversion-kits/

 

[1siksupra]

How are they holding up? Pretty strong? Thinking of converting mine to 5x114. Would tracking it hold up? This seems different than spacers and wobble bolts.

 

[superd6199]

How are they holding up? Pretty strong? Thinking of converting mine to 5x114. Would tracking it hold up? This seems different than spacers and wobble bolts.

Tried them out and sad to say it didn’t convert to 5X114. I honestly didn’t know how it would’ve converted to 5X114 from the bolts alone but then again I thought Vargas knew something I didn’t with their product.

 

[1siksupra]

Tried them out and sad to say it didn’t convert to 5X114. I honestly didn’t know how it would’ve converted to 5X114 from the bolts alone but then again I thought Vargas knew something I didn’t with their product.

I emailed them. Did you order through them? They state it allows a 5x114 wheel. Wonder why it say that if it doesn't. From what I read that is only off by a hair so going smaller bolt allows that adjustment to slide on. Another guy claims it works.

 

[superd6199]

I emailed them. Did you order through them? They state it allows a 5x114 wheel. Wonder why it say that if it doesn't. From what I read that is only off by a hair so going smaller bolt allows that adjustment to slide on. Another guy claims it works.

Ordered through Vargas and took a little over a week to deliver. I tried it on two different sets of 5x114 wheels and no way it’ll fit. I read the same articles too with guys stating it’ll fit bc it’s a smaller bolt and that was the reason I purchased them.

 

[1siksupra]

Ordered through Vargas and took a little over a week to deliver. I tried it on two different sets of 5x114 wheels and no way it’ll fit. I read the same articles too with guys stating it’ll fit bc it’s a smaller bolt and that was the reason I purchased them.

They emailed me about them. This is their response.

 

[razorlab]

I would believe Vargas about as far as I can throw him

 

[gixxersixxerman]

lmao what??????????????? this measurement is from center of the stud/lug to the center of stud/lug. Changing the size of the stud/bolt doesnt make it magically make the holes center to center go from 114.3 to 112. I figured this may work, but the lugnut you use would apply more pressure on the outside of the seat, its not going to center at all. And you should 100000% always depend on a hub centric ring over lug centric.

 

[superd6199]

They emailed me about them. This is their response.

My Gawd……Why does he sound so defensive? Congrats on the 9 second pass and it doesn’t take a genius to install wheel lugs. I’ll take my wheels off tomorrow and take some pictures to show the Supra community that this dog won’t hunt.

 

[1siksupra]

My Gawd……Why does he sound so defensive? Congrats on the 9 second pass and it doesn’t take a genius to install wheel lugs. I’ll take my wheels off tomorrow and take some pictures to show the Supra community that this dog won’t hunt.

Please do because he is claiming no issues at all. Which if it doesn't fit he needs to be stopped. Selling a product with false information

 

[zrk]

Please do because he is claiming no issues at all. Which if it doesn't fit he needs to be stopped. Selling a product with false information

Everything Vargas sells is false information. I'd avoid his shit like the plague.

 

[Elektro]

jeezus it would probably be safer to drill and tap new holes in the hub lol

 

[White Shadow]

Hub centric for me....no other options on any of my cars.

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