Race Tracking Your Supra - Information exchange

[NINaudio]

I hate to keep saying the same thing over and over and all these threads. Broken record lol.
Personally, I like carboTech. G-Lock is the same but cheaper. I'm not sure if they make pads for our cars yet. When I bought pads, options were limited so I'm running Hawk DTC60. No complaints, They handle all the abuse great.
Also, I think I read that you're looking at putting an intake on the car. I wouldn't suggest it as the stock air box seems to work better than anything else out there unless you're making somewhere north of 500 horsepower.

I've looked at both Carbotech and G-loc, and the pricing seems to be a wash to me. I don't remember which is which right now, but one is more expensive for fronts, and the other is more expensive for the rears.

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[AndyK5]

I hate to keep saying the same thing over and over and all these threads. Broken record lol.
Personally, I like carboTech. G-Lock is the same but cheaper. I'm not sure if they make pads for our cars yet. When I bought pads, options were limited so I'm running Hawk DTC60. No complaints, They handle all the abuse great.
Also, I think I read that you're looking at putting an intake on the car. I wouldn't suggest it as the stock air box seems to work better than anything else out there unless you're making somewhere north of 500 horsepower.

Intake is not for power, just sound.

 

[kaj]

Intake is not for power, just sound.

It's great for that! May be costing a bit of power, but worth it, IMO.

 

[Rocksandblues]

Rain is good for learning. I don’t find it fun because I am competitive w self. “I wanna go fast”

Lots of good brake pads when learning If you compete or are doing T T stuff. CSG
Spend some $ on a track alignment with an actual race shop

4th set of Nankangs, 3 csg set front, second rear all put on this week for 2023 so far.
36th track day tomo this season Instructing and then just fun day w cameras w friends in red group

Said a thousand times the Supra is very capable right out of the box. Fluid and pads and a skilled driver can match with lots of high end cars

Seat time seat time seat time trumps any mod
The more you track aggressively the more $$ consumables. Still very affordable platform compared to more expensive options

 

[kaj]

Rain is good for learning. I don’t find it fun because I am competitive w self. “I wanna go fast”

Said a thousand times the Supra is very capable right out of the box. Fluid and pads and a skilled driver can match with lots of high end cars

I stay away from rain events if for HPDE. I find it hard to learn while I'm dodging muddy tire tracks and puddles all over the track LOL.

I can vouch for these cars doing well stock. I lead my class in points with only tires, brake pads, fluid, and camber plates (on stock struts so... really....). I am running against various 3-series BMWs, some on slicks/weight reduction/roll cages/etc. They aren't happy, by the way ?

 

[AndyK5]

Rain is good for learning. I don’t find it fun because I am competitive w self. “I wanna go fast”

Lots of good brake pads when learning If you compete or are doing T T stuff. CSG
Spend some $ on a track alignment with an actual race shop

4th set of Nankangs, 3 csg set front, second rear all put on this week for 2023 so far.
36th track day tomo this season Instructing and then just fun day w cameras w friends in red group

Said a thousand times the Supra is very capable right out of the box. Fluid and pads and a skilled driver can match with lots of high end cars

Seat time seat time seat time trumps any mod
The more you track aggressively the more $$ consumables. Still very affordable platform compared to more expensive options

I agree with this, most of my track mods consist brakes, fluid and alignment. Even tires are secondary to me if it means getting less seat time.


I also agree with second point heavily, anyone at semi pro and below driving skill can learn a lot on wet surfaces or crappy tires. I learned car control by burning 3 sets of $450 a set GT Radials on track doing hooligan stiff like over cook a corner and still try to make it, get on the gas too early, keep on it till backend comes and around and try to control it etc…. I did not go fast, did not have any “kill” stories, did not win practice or the track day but I learned a lot.

As a matter of fact there are some traveling driving schools like alfa romeo club and the instructors are praying for rain which gives them this great teaxching platform without destroying $1000s in tires.

 

[FLtrackdays]

Car is coming today, Project Mu Clubsport are backorder. What other comparable pads out there? I am gonna try my chance with Carbotechs or Hawks possibly.

Hawk DTC 60/30 or Hawk 70/60 if you can find them for our car.

Track days/hpde stuff, no... I go based off of pedal feel. Racing, bleed before each event.

Highly recommend a pressure bleeder and a bleeder bottle, search “motive bleeder” get the bmw/euro one. Full bleed in under 10 minutes, one man job.

End of the day, as long as you’re enjoying the car and improving your driving skill, that’s all you need… the best mod is the driver mod.

Love to hear… It’s simple and a piece of mind. A lot of us just hop in the drivers seat and do a few pedal pumps. Dirty fluid and the tiniest of air bubbles be gone. Solid pedal all track season.

Track time…. totally agree. The best money spent on your car.

Well, weather for Sunday is now calling for rain on and off all day. Looks like I'll be leaving all the nannies on. I've never tracked in the rain before.

It’s a great way to learn actually. You’ll go way slower and take in a lot more. When the track drys up you’ll feel like Max Verstappen. If you see the TC light come on a lot, just click that juicy nanny button one time. You’ll be fine. Don’t do anything stupid (mash the gas pedal or brakes - especially with the wheel turned) anywhere you can’t run off. They’ll teach you that. You’ll have an instructor with you. It’s all good amigo

I've looked at both Carbotech and G-loc, and the pricing seems to be a wash to me. I don't remember which is which right now, but one is more expensive for fronts, and the other is more expensive for the rears.

Hawk DTC pads are actually a really good pad for this car. I’m finding more really fast track guys down here in their Supras running on them. I personally love them. They last a long time, I can really get on them, like the pedal feel, drive on the street, and they are kind to my rotors. If you have money to burn ? get the CSGs. They are fantastic from what I hear.

But by no means will you not be safe on the Hawk DTC pads. It’ll take a long time before you out drive that pad imo.

 

[Rocksandblues]

Any mods worth doing while my front bumper is off? Hit a tire carcass on the way home from the track Tuesday night. The only one I can think of is one of the couple options for intakes. No sure they are entirely worth it though.

Horn

 

[garudathree]

TripleSeven's dive planes dropped my PB by a full second, after balancing them out with more rear downforce.

The car on stock power is basically a mirror image of a '18 TCR on slicks now in terms of track performance (piloted by Tom O'Gorman) :

 

[Rensuhlo]

Past weekend at Road Atlanta:

 

[NINaudio]

Well, I learned that tracking in the rain is not my idea of a good time.

I did two sessions and then left at lunch when the radar was still showing rain for the rest of the day.

Cars were going off track left, right, and center.

 

[Rensuhlo]

Well, I learned that tracking in the rain is not my idea of a good time.

I did two sessions and then left at lunch when the radar was still showing rain for the rest of the day.

Cars were going off track left, right, and center.

Driving in the rain is some of the best learning when people aren't being idiots. I essentially had road Atlanta to myself for a session because no one wanted to drive.

 

[kaj]

Well, I learned that tracking in the rain is not my idea of a good time.

I did two sessions and then left at lunch when the radar was still showing rain for the rest of the day.

Cars were going off track left, right, and center.

This is what I say ANY time someone mentions driving in the rain for HPDE. It's NOT fun. You spend the day sliding through mud brought all over the track by people with less car control. I tell everyone: you are paying for a track day. If it's raining or the course is wet, you aren't going to get a single bit of quality time. If it's worth it for you to take a couple turns at practice speeds and be on high alert for all the blind areas.. then fine. No thanks, for me.
I've tried twice. Never again. HUGE waste of time and money for me.

 

[NINaudio]

This is what I say ANY time someone mentions driving in the rain for HPDE. It's NOT fun. You spend the day sliding through mud brought all over the track by people with less car control. I tell everyone: you are paying for a track day. If it's raining or the course is wet, you aren't going to get a single bit of quality time. If it's worth it for you to take a couple turns at practice speeds and be on high alert for all the blind areas.. then fine. No thanks, for me.
I've tried twice. Never again. HUGE waste of time and money for me.

My dashcam footage was filled with lots of cursing, especially when I went sideways while going 22 (!!!) mph through a corner with only maintenance throttle.

I definitely feel like I wasted my money and time for the day. Lesson learned though, next time I'm registered for an HPDE and it's going to rain all day I'm skipping it and getting my track insurance money refunded. I also learned that that racetrack had less traction in the wet than just about any normal road I've ever driven on. The closest comparison I have is when I took my old RWD Q60 out in the snow on the OEM runflats, just to see how bad they really were.

 

[kaj]

My dashcam footage was filled with lots of cursing, especially when I went sideways while going 22 (!!!) mph through a corner with only maintenance throttle.

I definitely feel like I wasted my money and time for the day. Lesson learned though, next time I'm registered for an HPDE and it's going to rain all day I'm skipping it and getting my track insurance money refunded. I also learned that that racetrack had less traction in the wet than just about any normal road I've ever driven on. The closest comparison I have is when I took my old RWD Q60 out in the snow on the OEM runflats, just to see how bad they really were.

Yeah. I've often eaten the cost on a track day because why spend MORE money getting there, spend MORE money on insurance and possibly bin the car due to mud. I'd rather just lose the $200ish for the track day.
In rain, driving off the line sometimes provides more grip. Good in racing situations, because you get to use some strategy, etc... but S U C K S for HPDE.

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