Analysis, Comments & Reactions from the Web about the new Supra

[Bryster]

Oh btw, I've gotten 3000+ new comments on my old Supra video from 2017. The vast majority of them are expletive ridden rants in some primal form of English talking about how Toyota just changed the badges on a Z4 and disrespected the Supra name. Lot of threats against Tada San and Akio San too.

The thing you don't see though is the fact that the video has gotten 200,000+ views in the same time and thousands of likes.

The 12 year olds who think they need to express their unoriginal opinions are the only ones who you end up seeing across the comments section and bulletin boards. Everyone else says "cool" and moves on. In the end the only real opinions that matter are the actual potential buyers who have the money to throw Toyota's way. And while some people might think that Toyota doesn't know what buyers want, there are entire marketing firms with million dollar contracts that would be more than happy to show you terabytes of data that says otherwise. That's just how it goes.

No wonder Toyota was out for 20 years

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[kona61]

Oh btw, I've gotten 3000+ new comments on my old Supra video from 2017. The vast majority of them are expletive ridden rants in some primal form of English talking about how Toyota just changed the badges on a Z4 and disrespected the Supra name. Lot of threats against Tada San and Akio San too.

The thing you don't see though is the fact that the video has gotten 200,000+ views in the same time and thousands of likes.

The 12 year olds who think they need to express their unoriginal opinions are the only ones who you end up seeing across the comments section and bulletin boards. Everyone else says "cool" and moves on. In the end the only real opinions that matter are the actual potential buyers who have the money to throw Toyota's way. And while some people might think that Toyota doesn't know what buyers want, there are entire marketing firms with million dollar contracts that would be more than happy to show you terabytes of data that says otherwise. That's just how it goes.

Well, I can tell you this. I am active on the forum because I ordered the damn car. I am sure many other active members are considering ordering as well which is why they are active. The rest of the people, I assume, are children with nothing better to do. Otherwise, who has time to simply hate something continuously? I find it funny honestly.

 

[McWicked]

Oh btw, I've gotten 3000+ new comments on my old Supra video from 2017. The vast majority of them are expletive ridden rants in some primal form of English talking about how Toyota just changed the badges on a Z4 and disrespected the Supra name. Lot of threats against Tada San and Akio San too.

The thing you don't see though is the fact that the video has gotten 200,000+ views in the same time and thousands of likes.

The 12 year olds who think they need to express their unoriginal opinions are the only ones who you end up seeing across the comments section and bulletin boards. Everyone else says "cool" and moves on. In the end the only real opinions that matter are the actual potential buyers who have the money to throw Toyota's way. And while some people might think that Toyota doesn't know what buyers want, there are entire marketing firms with million dollar contracts that would be more than happy to show you terabytes of data that says otherwise. That's just how it goes.

In the early days of YouTube, I uploaded a video about one of the electronic projects I was working on. The highest rated comment was that I needed to learn how to solder. What's funny is that I am certified by NASA to perform solders on man-rated spacecraft. So good enough for the space shuttle, but not up to internet standards it would appear.

 

[kona61]

In the early days of YouTube, I uploaded a video about one of the electronic projects I was working on. The highest rated comment was that I needed to learn how to solder. What's funny is that I am certified by NASA to perform solders on man-rated spacecraft. So good enough for the space shuttle, but not up to internet standards it would appear.

Nothing is up to the internet's standards. Except maybe memes.

 

[Bryster]

In the early days of YouTube, I uploaded a video about one of the electronic projects I was working on. The highest rated comment was that I needed to learn how to solder. What's funny is that I am certified by NASA to perform solders on man-rated spacecraft. So good enough for the space shuttle, but not up to internet standards it would appear.

NASA certified?hats off to you!

 

[AsupramkvC]

When the MkIV was still in production, did it ever receive a facelift?

 

[sedanlova]

When the MkIV was still in production, did it ever receive a facelift?

Nothing significant. Headlights, taillights, front bumper, wheels design, interior mat, steering wheel, seats, improvement with 2JZGTE VVTI and V161.

 

[Modal170]

I am hating this circular logic.

Guy says Toyota should have used a V6.

I said it isn't a Supra then.

But it'll at least be a toyota!

But then you wouldn't be able to afford a bespoke toyota Supra costing 100-

Don't care, this is a rebadged BMW., it's a toyota...Supra. Not a BMW Supra

*Tries to explain difference in setup/suspension, time, capapbilitiesetc..

You hear the door chime? Exactly the same, should have thrown a V6 with 500 Hp to fight the GTR



ME:

I'm done trying to reason and will just wait for reviews to come out. This is just aggravating at the lack of wanting to change or see something new for people who never owned a stock Supra

 

[BrettS]

I can only imagine all the tools screaming shit at you as your driving the new supra, that will get even more annoying than all this internet hate.

 

[Modal170]

I can only imagine all the tools screaming shit at you as your driving the new supra, that will get even more annoying than all this internet hate.

Lol, nice BMW Zupra.

Should have gotten a Z4, Porshce, Corvette, Type R, insert bloated pony car here

Then there's the uninitiated who are like wow, can it do 1000hp from the factory?

You can't win. The public distorted the image of the car from the maker who created it in the first place

 

[AsupramkvC]

Nothing significant. Headlights, taillights, front bumper, wheels design, interior mat, steering wheel, seats, improvement with 2JZGTE VVTI and V161.

Found it.! A80 Supra pre-facelift vs, facelifted version

I know it’s too early...but I wonder what the facelift version of the A90 will receive Probably will include fog lights, along with minor upgrades like it did with the A80.

 

[DesmoSD]

All right. NO. You have the audacity to talk F1 right in front of the BIGGEST AND MOST PASSIONATE F1 FAN EVER. And you spew bullshit. Come on.

He was a fucking legend in infinite ways. No doubt about that. He was a racing god which many other drivers feared and god was he so damn good. He, people like Alain Prost, Niki Lauda, Gilles Villeneuve, Keke Rosberg, and Nelson Piquet were the pinnacle of excellence at their time. But Ayrton had quite a few flaws that I can't even count them tbh. I'm am not going to even talk about those things right now. But I will focus on one main point.

Ayrton Senna (bless him) was an example of just jumping in the car, getting it done with his talent and raw skill. As things got a lot better in F1 technology, and what he was doing wasn't enough anymore. He lost his edge real bad. Younger, hungrier, and more intense people came up and outdid him in many ways. At the top, it was Michael Schumacher. My lord and saviour. Along with other racing gods like Fernando Alonso, Mika Hakkinen, Alain Prost, Kimi Raikkonen, Nico Rosberg and MUCH, MUCH MORE. These are good examples of my favourite F1 drivers of all time (or maybe drivers as a whole). Anyways, Michael Schumacher was the first to prioritize fitness and well-being. He DEFINED F1 into what it is today. He set the bar for all kinds of things that a good athlete should do to be at their best. He regularly exercised for long periods of time, checked his vitals often, and was so analytical in his work. My point is that he improved and raised the bar. He kicked Senna's ass handily. Ayrton was weak. Very weak. Generally, after each race (where every single one is a challenge in their own right and was hard) he wasn't able to prop himself out of the car, he was frail and was finding it hard getting used to the newer cars. He became weaker as time had passed and people like Michael Schumacher and Mika Hakkinen took over. If Senna drove today (with the way he was doing things back then), his ass would have been grass. He wouldn't have stood a chance compared to drivers of today because they have evolved and stepped up in terms of fitness for these newer cars. It's not just a case of point and shoot. Well, it never was.

Now connecting this EXACT point to the Supra. The A80 won't be able to do jack shit compared to the A90. Regardless of age, the A80 wasn't entirely mind blowing either. This A90 can do what the A80 has done to its own respective competition. The A80 was able to compete with other manufacturers of higher cachet for a multitude of reasons. Simply put, that's how it was at the time. Now? It's more evolved, more powerful, newer technology in terms of software logic, more usage of light weight materials, more R&D and tender loving care that has been put into the A90 Supra. Once people realize how the A80 is so much more inferior to the A90 (regardless of age) people will begin to realize that it has lost it's edge big time. It will mop the floor with the A80 and it will be a supercar beater. You're comparing a base model MkV to the highest model MkIV. Thus making your argument completely and totally invalid. Period.

The A80 was a legend like the late Ayrton Senna. But the A90 (like all modern F1 drivers) will leave the past for dead. The A90 is a better car in every considerable aspect.

Passionate F1 fan and not one mention of Hamilton?! C'mon man!! haha I knew I would this would get your attention. I agree Schumacher was very successful and helped evolve F1.

Also, Senna (and he was a huge safety advocate ) and Ratzenberger's death were catalysts for F1 to help improve safety and track changes; crash barriers, Hans, pit lane speed, crash testing, brake away suspension etc.

"We need the cars to go 4-5 seconds quicker -- that is the most important thing," he suggests.
"Drivers today work hard, they have to drive on the limit -- but when they stand on the podium, they are sweating very little I would say.
"To drive these cars today it's easier. This is what we have to do: make it more attractive, make it more difficult."

-Lauda

If it wasn't for the A80, the A90 wouldn't be half of what it is today. Would it perform better then an A80, possibly.




Do you remember when Valentino Rossi "stunned" Schumacher after several laps in his Ferrari and Rossi never drove a F1 before in his racing career. Schumacher also tried to give MotoGP a crack.

MotoGP icon Valentino Rossi left Michael Schumacher "stunned" by his lap times during his first Formula 1 test for Ferrari in 2004, according to a former engineer who worked with both drivers that day.

Nine-time world champion Rossi flirted with a move to F1 on a number of occasions, with his maiden test for Ferrari coming at Fiorano in 2004 when both he and Schumacher were at the height of their powers.

Rossi was given the chance to sample the Ferrari F2004 car around the Italian manufacturer's private track with suport from engineer Luigi Mazzola, who remembered the test on his Facebook page.

"I do not remember exactly how many tests we did with Valentino Rossi at Ferrari, certainly at least seven," Mazzola wrote.


"At the first, Valentino went on the track and did about 10 laps - and on the last, it was an incredible time.

"I remember that Michael Schumacher, who was with me looking at the telemetry, had a stunned looked, almost incredulous."

 

[DesmoSD]

Found it.! A80 Supra pre-facelift vs, facelifted version

I know it’s too early...but I wonder what the facelift version of the A90 will receive Probably will include fog lights, along with minor upgrades like it did with the A80.

Also, some other changes were OBD I and OBD II, the dash panels, the double din radio, polished wheels, the snow button, the Limited Edition 15th Anniversary badge and the 4 new colors (Quicksilver, Royal Sapphire Pearl, Deep Jewel Green and Imperial Jade Mica).

That’s not correct, I remember clearly in 1997 the Supra turbo dropped in price to 39,900, same as in 1998. It wasn’t available in California due to emissions.

That price you are quoting is the price around 1995-1996. Look closely at the top right corner, it says “1995”

Attached is the correct window sticker for 1997, it was cheaper than the e36 M3. I would know cause I missed the boat to buy a brand new Supra turbo and went with the e36.

Yeah, both are correct and that's when Toyota was offering rebates and trying to get rid of them.

Even after FnF, Supra's were still depreciating. I could have bought my friend's 94 Hardtop back in 2012 for 19K. I kid you not, when Paul Walker died in 2013, there was an instant demand for Supra's that following year.

Model Year Toyota Supra Toyota Supra Turbo
1993 $33,900 $39,900
1994 $35,800 $42,800
1995 $37,600 $47,500
1996 $38,600 $50,400
1997 $29,500 $39,900
1998 $31,078 $40,508

 

[Guff]

IIRC, in Japan, the 99-02 cars also got the new gauge cluster and new center caps/lug covers for the wheels. Also Super Bright Yellow!

 

[JustaCarguy.]

SMH.

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