Metal Shavings Found after Oil Change

[humzahh]

Hi everyone,

Earlier today I completed an oil change for my 2020 Supra which has a BM3 stage 1 tune. This is my first oil change since the tune approximately 8000km (5000 miles). All my previous oil changes have been done at the dealer and no issues reported. The dealer has been using 0w-20 and I also used Liquimoly 0w-20 today. Inspecting the used oil I found some very fine metal shavings. The car currently has 25,000km (15,000 miles) and I have owned this car since new. Thus far the car has been nothing short of perfect, even with the BM3 tune. Also I haven't done any track days but I drive the car how it's meant to be driven. I have attached pictures below, but they aren't the greatest.

Should I be concerned? Any next steps to take?

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[lucky phil]

The next step is to drain the oil through filter paper and look at the chips. Determine if they are ferrous or non ferrous. So steel, aluminium or bearing material. Any machining swarf from manufacture should have been flushed out if there was any by now which these days is pretty rare. An oil analysis would also be advisable to make sure it's not bearing material. It looks like aluminium but images can be misleading. The only thing the early engines have an issue with as far as I know is the oil pumps. The part that fails is plastic but it may generate some aluminium chips as well most likely. First sign of that issue is the car won't complete an oil level check.
Problem with dealer oil changes is none of them are going to inspect the drained oil so you don't know if it's been making metal for a while. They just dump it and walk away.
Silly question I know but was the drain container perfectly clean to start with. How many people drag an oil drain container from out under the bench where it's been sitting for months and don't look at it or make sure it's spotless and then find crap in it after the drain and not know if the material was there before or not. From my experience, plenty.
Phil

 

[humzahh]

The next step is to drain the oil through filter paper and look at the chips. Determine if they are ferrous or non ferrous. So steel, aluminium or bearing material. Any machining swarf from manufacture should have been flushed out if there was any by now which these days is pretty rare. An oil analysis would also be advisable to make sure it's not bearing material. It looks like aluminium but images can be misleading. The only thing the early engines have an issue with as far as I know is the oil pumps. The part that fails is plastic but it may generate some aluminium chips as well most likely. First sign of that issue is the car won't complete an oil level check.
Problem with dealer oil changes is none of them are going to inspect the drained oil so you don't know if it's been making metal for a while. They just dump it and walk away.
Silly question I know but was the drain container perfectly clean to start with. How many people drag an oil drain container from out under the bench where it's been sitting for months and don't look at it or make sure it's spotless and then find crap in it after the drain and not know if the material was there before or not. From my experience, plenty.
Phil

thanks for the reply Phil. Planning on driving 1000-2000km and doing another oil change. And then sending the used oil to Blackstone Labs for oil analysis. I actually used the drain container for my 330i last week so I don't think it could be that.

 

[Rocksandblues]

That is not good. Why wait on oil analysis ?

 

[sup.dc2]

curious to know what your filter element looks like?

 

[omfgzilla]

First OCI will have metal shavings.

now if you got this

I'd like to congratulate you on your ~1000 hp b58 build

 

[humzahh]

That is not good. Why wait on oil analysis ?

my friend disposed the used oil and when I was about to clean the oil drain container I saw the metal shavings. Couldn't see the shavings initially because it got dark outside. So currently don't have a sample to send out. I absolutely love this car and if the analysis comes back as normal I'd love to keep the car.

 

[humzahh]

curious to know what your filter element looks like?

filter looked normal (extremely minimal shavings), and was the very similar to my 330i filter that I changed last week.

 

[lucky phil]

thanks for the reply Phil. Planning on driving 1000-2000km and doing another oil change. And then sending the used oil to Blackstone Labs for oil analysis. I actually used the drain container for my 330i last week so I don't think it could be that.

Without the benefit if actually viewing the chips in person that sounds like a reasonable course of action. Drain the oil at the interval you suggested into a really clean container taking take a mid stream sample for the analysis and inspect for more material. If it comes up good from a visual inspection then re use the oil until the report comes back and see what's what.
Phil

 

[Tacoma714]

Hi everyone,

Earlier today I completed an oil change for my 2020 Supra which has a BM3 stage 1 tune. This is my first oil change since the tune approximately 8000km (5000 miles). All my previous oil changes have been done at the dealer and no issues reported. The dealer has been using 0w-20 and I also used Liquimoly 0w-20 today. Inspecting the used oil I found some very fine metal shavings. The car currently has 25,000km (15,000 miles) and I have owned this car since new. Thus far the car has been nothing short of perfect, even with the BM3 tune. Also I haven't done any track days but I drive the car how it's meant to be driven. I have attached pictures below, but they aren't the greatest.

Should I be concerned? Any next steps to take?

You barely have 15,000 miles on a 2020 and there are weird metal shavings? That is definitely strange. I’ll follow this thread to kind out what your investigation turns up.

 

[omfgzilla]

Inspecting the used oil I found some very fine metal shavings. The car currently has 25,000km (15,000 miles) and I have owned this car since new.

didn't see the 15K miles part. if you didn't find any alarming chunks in the filter, you should be fine. How many oil changes does the car have? I'm assuming 2 because youre following what the dealer and manual are calling for(10K oci). If only 2 then its still break-in shavings. Shavings should clean up after the 3rd change, but i already know you have wear because you're using that garbage 20W on a tune. Nothing you can do now other than go to walmart, get some cheap supertech, and keep flushing the motor out until shavings are gone. Move up to a 40 weight.

and for fuck sake, don't ask what oil you should use.

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