[Discussion] Has anyone switched tuners?

[tenkyouken]

Why did you decide to switch?

Which tune was better and why was it better?

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[Loco38SUP]

This sounds like one of those troll bait questions.

You should be more interested in which tuner will be available for tuning in a decent amount of time.

-RJM

 

[tenkyouken]

It's not troll bait.

Just genuinely curious and am trying to decide if I want to change tuners.

 

[Loco38SUP]

It's not troll bait.

Just genuinely curious and am trying to decide if I want to change tuners.

A recent thread touched on the subject. It has good info. I recommend you check it out.

Recent Tuner Info

-RJM

 

[tenkyouken]

A recent thread touched on the subject. It has good info. I recommend you check it out.

Recent Tuner Info

-RJM

That thread is the reason I'm contemplating making the switch to another tuner. It comes down to communication before anything else, of course.

Most have only been tuned by one tuner and once that happens, they automatically recommend that tuner. One good experience/tune doesn't necessarily mean there can't be an even better experience/tune (especially if they had nothing to compare it to or don't know what is being put into those tables). So it got me thinking why not try another to see what they might have to offer? Wanted to see if anyone else has had these thoughts.

@razorlab is really great at giving us info on such niche things, it makes you wonder if the tuners are as thorough (especially when they're busy).

 

[dustwhyn]

I started tuning for my Pure900 with PureBoost. Had all kinds of issues and he was adamant that there was a hardware issue. I switched to Wedge Performance and my car is rock solid now. Steve started with a few test maps to rule out any hardware issues and then he got to work. Start to finish the flex fuel tune took maybe a week and a half to two weeks. With Fabian, we were 2 months in on the base fuel (ACN91) and the end was nowhere in sight.

 

[SmurfA90]

Most tuners I reached out to either didn’t reply or gave vague responses, which was pretty frustrating and set the tone for how things would go.

Then I saw Alexx’s video on YouTube where he mentioned his tuner, Hassan from HTE Performance. Right from the start, Hassan was invested, even before I was ready to buy his tune. The tuning process was awesome—his guidance was clear, his recommendations were solid, and he usually replied in under an hour. Map revisions were done the same day, and even after the tune was finished, he was still around to check logs. I recently upgraded to the Remnant Omega 65, and the experience with Hassan has been just as good.

Would I switch tuners? Probably not—he’s been great, and the alternatives out there haven’t impressed me.

 

[tenkyouken]

I started tuning for my Pure900 with PureBoost. Had all kinds of issues and he was adamant that there was a hardware issue. I switched to Wedge Performance and my car is rock solid now. Steve started with a few test maps to rule out any hardware issues and then he got to work. Start to finish the flex fuel tune took maybe a week and a half to two weeks. With Fabian, we were 2 months in on the base fuel (ACN91) and the end was nowhere in sight.

Did you get a second opinion on the hardware before making the switch? What pushed you to go to Steve and not just believe Steve saying it was hardware?

Most tuners I reached out to either didn’t reply or gave vague responses, which was pretty frustrating and set the tone for how things would go.

Then I saw Alexx’s video on YouTube where he mentioned his tuner, Hassan from HTE Performance. Right from the start, Hassan was invested, even before I was ready to buy his tune. The tuning process was awesome—his guidance was clear, his recommendations were solid, and he usually replied in under an hour. Map revisions were done the same day, and even after the tune was finished, he was still around to check logs. I recently upgraded to the Remnant Omega 65, and the experience with Hassan has been just as good.

Would I switch tuners? Probably not—he’s been great, and the alternatives out there haven’t impressed me.

What impressed you about Hassan from the beginning? How was he invested before you bought his tune?

 

[SmurfA90]

What impressed you about Hassan from the beginning? How was he invested before you bought his tune?

I started chatting with Hassan weeks, maybe even months, before I actually got tuned. Coming from a Honda background, the B58 platform was completely new to me, and I had a ton of questions on water-meth injection, nozzle sizes, single vs. dual jets, and even whether I needed methanol at all. It was a big learning curve.

Hassan was super patient and took the time to answer all my questions, guiding me on the right modification path for the B58. It was all free consultation—just him helping me understand the platform before I was even a customer. Of course, I’m sure he qualified me before investing his time, but honestly, it felt more like solid relationship building.

 

[kyle9]

I’ve used 3 different tuners, all of them were highly recommended and very responsive. They all had a lot of experience with tuning high hp cars and tuning track cars.

All of them got about as much power as you could expect out of the setup, but only Zach @ CSG achieved 10/10 smooth power delivery and drivability.

No surging or overboosting or jerking when on/off throttle or partial throttle. He actually made even slightly better power than the other tuners while still having the smooth delivery and fast response.

I think he was the only one that really put a lot of time and effort into building a compressor map and understanding how everything worked instead of just guess and checking until getting a power curve that “looked good.”

 

[mikeag96]

I’ve used 3 different tuners, all of them were highly recommended and very responsive. They all had a lot of experience with tuning high hp cars and tuning track cars.

All of them got about as much power as you could expect out of the setup, but only Zach @ CSG achieved 10/10 smooth power delivery and drivability.

No surging or overboosting or jerking when on/off throttle or partial throttle. He actually made even slightly better power than the other tuners while still having the smooth delivery and fast response.

I think he was the only one that really put a lot of time and effort into building a compressor map and understanding how everything worked instead of just guess and checking until getting a power curve that “looked good.”

MHD?

 

[tenkyouken]

I’ve used 3 different tuners, all of them were highly recommended and very responsive. They all had a lot of experience with tuning high hp cars and tuning track cars.

All of them got about as much power as you could expect out of the setup, but only Zach @ CSG achieved 10/10 smooth power delivery and drivability.

No surging or overboosting or jerking when on/off throttle or partial throttle. He actually made even slightly better power than the other tuners while still having the smooth delivery and fast response.

I think he was the only one that really put a lot of time and effort into building a compressor map and understanding how everything worked instead of just guess and checking until getting a power curve that “looked good.”

What made you want to go through so many when you your first and even second tuner were good and experienced?

Love that building the map from Zach instead of guessing and checking. He's truly been getting glowing reviews on this forum.

 

[dustwhyn]

Did you get a second opinion on the hardware before making the switch? What pushed you to go to Steve and not just believe Steve saying it was hardware?

Didn’t need a second opinion. I do everything on my car except for tuning and after going over everything with a fine-tooth comb I was sure that there wasn’t any issues on my end. I gave Fabian plenty of time to sort it out and he still believed there was a mechanical issue.
I switched to Steve on the recommendation of multiple close friends and I’m very glad that I did.

 

[SuupYota]

What made you want to go through so many when you your first and even second tuner were good and experienced?

Love that building the map from Zach instead of guessing and checking. He's truly been getting glowing reviews on this forum.

Zach's a great tuner. Period. My tune on e50 was one of the first when flexfuel first was available for our cars. I immediately said sure it's do it, haha. Super smooth and reliable power delivery, and also hauls ass. As @kyle9 has stated, it is very smooth and has no jerkiness. The tune has always felt like how our cars would feel tuned from factory with a ton more power.

 

[FluffyMangoes]

went through paul johnson, Odintuned (kirill), and Subpartuning (Doug newton). Paul johnson tune was trash, odintuned made my engine misfire 3 times even after 15 revisions, and doug is the current tune and feels solid.

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