Supra (?) Rogue Engineering Short Shifter

[Syrihl]

Funny. So he replied with no detailed reasoning just the "bleeding obvious" ?
Phil

I quote "We are constantly making changes to our product. It is correct."

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[Eastwood]

I quote "We are constantly making changes to our product. It is correct."

Funny...I was one of the first to get this and install it when it was released. I didn't see any reason for it to be updated and my shop said it went in perfectly. Also didn't need to trim the shift boot trim either. I don't feel anything hitting or in the way when shifting. But hey, as long as you got it and you're happy with it, that's all that matters.

I kinda wish I would have done the front IND bushings when I had the chance. I have the rear carrier bushing, so I'm thinking of getting the fronts in when I swap out the clutch at some point.

 

[Syrihl]

Funny...I was one of the first to get this and install it when it was released. I didn't see any reason for it to be updated and my shop said it went in perfectly. Also didn't need to trim the shift boot trim either. I don't feel anything hitting or in the way when shifting. But hey, as long as you got it and you're happy with it, that's all that matters.

I kinda wish I would have done the front IND bushings when I had the chance. I have the rear carrier bushing, so I'm thinking of getting the fronts in when I swap out the clutch at some point.

Who knows, I figured they had their reasons. I also figured out the rubbing came from the stock rubber boot seal which is only 2 mm thick but contacts the trim unless pushed down to the bottom edge of the colored shrink wrap on the shifter. Think a lot of people who install entirely through the center console end up trashing the rubber boot and not reusing it.

Don't know how much difference the front bushings make but switching out both the rear and front at the same time stiffened things up a decent bit.

 

[swrdply400mrelay]

Got around to installing the bushing kit from ind-distribution.com and the Rogue Engineering short shifter. Used the YT videos below and instructions from nameless (thanks!):

Pulled the under body panel, exhaust, and heat shield above the driveshaft. I was able to pull the entire shifter assembly out without removing or even rotating the driveshaft by sliding off the rear bushing mount first. You have to squish/squeeze the rubber boot seal with the shifter assembly around the driveshaft but wasn't too hard.

Couple of nitpicks about the short shifter. The most recent model I received looks a little bit different from the original pictures I've seen. The color of the wrap is blue instead of grey (no functional difference) and the pivot ball has cut out indentions on either side. The pivot ball also seems to be located a little lower on the threads compared to older photos. Also I ended up having to Dremel off some of the trim at the base of the shifter boot since it was rubbing the front in 1st, 3rd, and 5th gears. Mostly resolved with only a minor amount of rubbing/squeak in 5th gear.





Overall extremely satisfied. New bushings and Rogue short shifter feel amazing. The throw is shortened a full 1/2 inch and shifts are much more crisp with a slight "schnick" when sliding into gears. No increased vibration/noise and shifts are just as smooth but firmer and more mechanical. Measured from 3rd gear to the back of the shift knob in 4th gear. Stock picture is on top.

Does the bushing kit get rid of the “rubbery” feeling?

 

[Syrihl]

Does the bushing kit get rid of the “rubbery” feeling?

I'd say it improves it quite a bit but the bushings are still delrin/urethane and not aluminum unlike the ones I have in the Evo.

 

[Eastwood]

Who knows, I figured they had their reasons. I also figured out the rubbing came from the stock rubber boot seal which is only 2 mm thick but contacts the trim unless pushed down to the bottom edge of the colored shrink wrap on the shifter. Think a lot of people who install entirely through the center console end up trashing the rubber boot and not reusing it.

Don't know how much difference the front bushings make but switching out both the rear and front at the same time stiffened things up a decent bit.

During my research on bushings, I saw a lot of BMW guys upgrade the front bushings. While watching their install vids, their OEM bushings were squished and deformed. So I thought it would be a good upgrade when the clutch is being done.

 

[lucky phil]

I quote "We are constantly making changes to our product. It is correct."

Thas because they are getting the customers to do the R&D. They and others release products that aren't fully developed and tested. Clutch manufacturers are probably the worst.
Phil

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