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Discussion in 'General Supra Topics' started by JT, Oct 4, 2018.
This whole thread is pointless.
Exact topic has been discussed many times in past threads and if you want to talk about it, go to those threads instead of creating a new one like this over and over.
If this topic wasn't discussed in the previous posts, then sure, this will add value to the community so all is good.
But no, this topic is done already and adds nothing of any value.
Just bite your tongue for the first part of this article. Yes Jalopnik, it has BMW logos and stickers everywhere because it IS a BMW, we know thanks. Pretend its Playboy, just look at the pics (lots of goodness that hasn't been seen up close here yet)...
I find the fixation on BMW part numbers sort of funny. It shows a lack of understanding of the modern manufacturing supply chain. No carmaker builds all of their own components. Third party OEM suppliers manufacture the parts, then affix them with the respective final assembler's logo, qr-code, barcode and part numbers to enter the supply chain. It's called logistics.
Most people expected BMW logos on engine components, but they are literally everywhere. In a joint development, you would expect either components from both companies, or shared components with different logos for each manufacturer.
Oooo I love how in-depth they are about the front end
McWicked, it shows a lack of understanding about how this car was developed. You'd think a car news site would know how this venture went down and that the car is a BMW styled and partially tuned by some Toyota engineers (obviously, a good portion of the Supra dev team are BMW people). If they wanted to shock us, they should have tried to find a part with a Toyota or Aisin stamping on it.
BMW part number/logo means lead design/engineering & responsibility = BMW.
Frankly,I'm surprised the Challenger isn't receiving this kind of flak for being part Italian
Well let's see, the car is made in Austria, so it doesn't really make sense for Toyota to make the parts does it? So why is it odd that they are from BMW who is thousands of miles closer and already has established suppliers in the general region?
The American Challenger is a frickin German E-class from the 2000's, now made by Italians, in Canada.
I lol'd really hard at this at work
On a side note, I wonder if Toyota added hidden Toyota clues like they did with the GT86
Why are so many people astonished about the BMW parts?
Same way the FR-S and 86 have all Subaru parts. And, BMW's OEM parts supply is so much closer that the only reason a Toyota part might be used is if BMW doesn't have it available.
This does not mean that the engineering lead is necessarily taken by BMW. From my understanding both teams started with the basic components; unitized structure, suspension, systems, and drive train, then they independently developed the design they envisioned within that framework.
Yeah, what's not to like. You pay Toyota-ish money and get a BMW. Win win!