A70TTR
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1) it's more advanced and superior as such in some ways, but it's not superior in all ways.when the new B58M30 is a far superior block than the 27 year old 2JZ.
Not to mention that every fan boy and even most MKIV Supra owners are ignorant to the fact that the 2JZ-GTE motor was actually engineered by German Engineering firm Johann Krause GmbH prior to 1993.
To add insult to injury, the GETRAG now known as Magna PT's 6 speed transmission in the MKIV's was also a German transmission. The MKIV's rise to stardom can be attributed to the German engineering that went into it's power plant and drivetrain.
Toyota is still outsourcing their motors from other companies to this day and they work closely with Yamaha for their Lexus brand performance vehicles i.e. LFA, LC500, RC-F and IS-F.
2) complete nonsense that I've debunked before. Whoever started that rumor on the internet is the worst...
3) the only thing German was the V160 and it was indeed amazing.
4) the only engines in recent history that have been outsourced are the FA20 and B58.
other engines have utilized Yamaha, who Toyota owns a stake in to tune performance variants generally in the form of the heads. Exceptions to this are the LFA engine, which was co-developed, and according to a TRD race engineer I spoke with the 1JZ-GTE as well.
I'm not going to get into this further (I've provided far more information on this in the past), but those are the facts.
Look, I understand your frustration better than most as I have defended this car and it's development for a long time, but "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones" came to mind whilst reading your comments...
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