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[Evolution]

Doubtful. The ecutek gang is still the ecutek gang.

True but this bm3 update is going to work fine for the other 90% of people. Ecutek will remain king of tuning programs but again, 90% of people don't need all its options. Honestly I think most people are like me and just wanted the basic flex fuel option.

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[Eastwood]

True but this bm3 update is going to work fine for the other 90% of people. Ecutek will remain king of tuning programs but again, 90% of people don't need all its options. Honestly I think most people are like me and just wanted the basic flex fuel option.

Yeah I am looking for something tuneable, has option to return to stock without re-locking the DME. The cloneable DME route is pretty costly and not something many of us want to do.

CARB is such a soul sucker.

 

[zrk]

True but this bm3 update is going to work fine for the other 90% of people. Ecutek will remain king of tuning programs but again, 90% of people don't need all its options. Honestly I think most people are like me and just wanted the basic flex fuel option.

No, I get that, but the people that have been cloning all did Ecutek. They didn't do a clone then go with MHD or BM3. The market for clones was already Ecutek.

 

[Avarela99]

No, I get that, but the people that have been cloning all did Ecutek. They didn't do a clone then go with MHD or BM3. The market for clones was already Ecutek.

This is true there will be a premium still for ecutek. It’s just the ppl that need ecutek over BM3 are the 1% of ppl it’s a small niche but those ppl will spend big bucks because they have big builds

 

[zrk]

This is true there will be a premium still for ecutek. It’s just the ppl that need ecutek over BM3 are the 1% of ppl it’s a small niche but those ppl will spend big bucks because they have big builds

I feel like no one is listening.

This shouldn't affect the clone market all that much. Maybe a little bit, but I don't think it's going to fall on it's fast. The ECUs are already rare as fuck.

 

[kaj]

I just want flex fuel and a polished tune. BUT I have to clone an ECU because I need my OEM one for smog.
I expect to sell this car in a year or two and I don't want to be stuck with it because I can't smog it for the new owner.

 

[Avarela99]

I feel like no one is listening.

This shouldn't affect the clone market all that much. Maybe a little bit, but I don't think it's going to fall on it's fast. The ECUs are already rare as fuck.

For ppl like me the partial unlock was enough 93 and Custom E50. I’m not gonna send my ECU back and spend for a flex tune i don’t mind mixing fuel.

For those pushing the envelope tho like u money isn’t really a factor especially when the build is 50k plus in your case more. And the ECU clone is a drop in the bucket at that level. It’s just very few people at that level though. So in reality the clones should stay the same price.

 

[Avarela99]

I just want flex fuel and a polished tune. BUT I have to clone an ECU because I need my OEM one for smog.
I expect to sell this car in a year or two and I don't want to be stuck with it because I can't smog it for the new owner.

Can’t you just put on the stock downpipe and flash to stock???

 

[kaj]

Can’t you just put on the stock downpipe and flash to stock???

We don't know yet. With my old car, it had to be 100% stock right down to the immobilizer code, with the correct ROM, etc.
I'm not sure if our cars will pass smog with a reflash to stock.
I don't want to find out, the hard way, that it won't.

 

[Avarela99]

We don't know yet. With my old car, it had to be 100% stock right down to the immobilizer code, with the correct ROM, etc.
I'm not sure if our cars will pass smog with a reflash to stock.
I don't want to find out, the hard way, that it won't.

California is annoying af that sucks i don’t blame ya then. I drove through inspection catless in NJ and nobody batted an eye…

 

[STi_to_GRzupra]

I just want flex fuel and a polished tune. BUT I have to clone an ECU because I need my OEM one for smog.
I expect to sell this car in a year or two and I don't want to be stuck with it because I can't smog it for the new owner.

Sell it to someone out of state.

 

[kaj]

Sell it to someone out of state.

That works if you have infinite time in which to sell a car. But don't hold your breath (ask me how I know).

 

[devnull]

With the release of customrom, what does ecutek offer that bm3 won’t be able to do now? If I’m reading it correctly (and it’s totally possible I’m not) customrom will give you flex and map switching, which were my main reasons for wanting to clone.

Only thing I can see is the top tuners are ecutek and not bm3 right (botti being the first that pops to mind).

I guess for me I would just do e85, dp, intake mani and pure800. But who knows what that could spiral into.

 

[D_A_S]

This release has been in the making for some time now. There is even a new PI controller being produced. Which I am grateful for because the useless Reflex systems are such a draw of the hat. Meaning... who knows if it is going to work or not.

The time spent from the BM3 guys is going to far surpass what ECUtek currently has. Main reason is that most tuners get acquainted with a specific software and just stick to it. BM3 has been in the BMW game longer than anyone. Custom features for specific "Custom logic mapping" is still programmable in BM3. You just need to know the right tuners. This has become such a monopoly that people just believe everything they hear.
That being said. I do not think Ecutek is a bad program. I just think the bottom dollar goes farther with BM3.

 

[razorlab]

This release has been in the making for some time now. There is even a new PI controller being produced. Which I am grateful for because the useless Reflex systems are such a draw of the hat. Meaning... who knows if it is going to work or not.

The time spent from the BM3 guys is going to far surpass what ECUtek currently has. Main reason is that most tuners get acquainted with a specific software and just stick to it. BM3 has been in the BMW game longer than anyone. Custom features for specific "Custom logic mapping" is still programmable in BM3. You just need to know the right tuners. This has become such a monopoly that people just believe everything they hear.
That being said. I do not think Ecutek is a bad program. I just think the bottom dollar goes farther with BM3.

Agreed. I have seen this happen with Ecutek on multiple platforms over the last twenty years. Just a matter of time. Same thing with some tuners/people saying Ecutek is "FAR SUPERIOR" but if you look at things in an unbiased way and actually compare features, "FAR SUPERIOR" is VERY much a stretch.

My dealings with the BM3 crew so far has been great overall. I knew they where going after the PI thing... it makes complete sense, really the only advantage Ecutek has currently.

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