Clean Air Act & EPA flags?

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Never ran out of gas on the highway and don’t plan to run out of charge either. Dunno why I’d be making a dumbass move like that. :dunno:
missed the point again, or youre just avoiding the question
read the original post
in a hurricane where EVERYONE is trying to flee.....if they get stuck on the highways
gas cars will eventually run out...same with EVs
the point it the nightmare logistically it will take to remove say 10k flat EVs from the freeway vs. 10k gas cars

 

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missed the point again, or youre just avoiding the question
read the original post
in a hurricane where EVERYONE is trying to flee.....if they get stuck on the highways
gas cars will eventually run out...same with EVs
the point it the nightmare logistically it will take to remove say 10k flat EVs from the freeway vs. 10k gas cars
I just don’t find the point relevant really. Is it move difficult to charge an empty EV someplace in the bumblef*ck? Sure. But if one’s vehicle runs out of juice it’s just on the dumb ass that drove it to empty. Little planning goes a long way when it comes to hurricanes and snowstorms - they don’t come out of nowhere. There’s always notice. Probably don’t get on the road if you’re on empty.
 

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I just don’t find the point relevant really. Is it move difficult to charge an empty EV someplace in the bumblef*ck? Sure. But if one’s vehicle runs out of juice it’s just on the dumb ass that drove it to empty. Little planning goes a long way when it comes to hurricanes and snowstorms - they don’t come out of nowhere. There’s always notice. Probably don’t get on the road if you’re on empty.
keep avoiding the question
guess you live in your own world as a superhero
deflection power!
 

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missed the point again, or youre just avoiding the question
read the original post
in a hurricane where EVERYONE is trying to flee.....if they get stuck on the highways
gas cars will eventually run out...same with EVs
the point it the nightmare logistically it will take to remove say 10k flat EVs from the freeway vs. 10k gas cars
there really isn’t a point since your scenario isn’t as likely to happen as you think. EV’s “stuck in traffic fleeing hurricane” can lasts weeks “idling”, just like they have proven during winter storms. When rolling blackouts hit SoCal where my dad lives, gas station pumps don’t run on hopes and dreams, they were down unless the place had a back up generator, which I was surprised at how many didn’t there. And the stupid long lines to the few that did, and prices that some how went up during that time. My fathers home has solar, and back up battery packs. His EV6 was “fully” charged (80%) and never had to stres those 3 days about it.

I’ll admit I was like a lot of naysayers out there, these ultra rare scenarios and stuff, until I was able to get first hand knowledge about it. EV’s work for more people than they think. Last longer than most think.. they don’t fit everyone, but even for my dad that has a 160 mile round trip commute from Apple valley to ft Irwin it works, it’s “free” to charge (nothings free he had to pay for his solar 10 years ago and upkeep and all) but the savings of 20-30 dollars a day in fuel and never going to a gas station makes it worth it 1000 times over for him. It did make it to Savannah Ga where my brother lives needing about 7 hours more, but also was many hundreds of dollars less then when he took his RAM 1500.

again though, I know many are against EVs due to it being “forced” on them by the gov or the feeling it is. But for most of Americans it works.
 

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there really isn’t a point since your scenario isn’t as likely to happen as you think. EV’s “stuck in traffic fleeing hurricane” can lasts weeks “idling”, just like they have proven during winter storms. When rolling blackouts hit SoCal where my dad lives, gas station pumps don’t run on hopes and dreams, they were down unless the place had a back up generator, which I was surprised at how many didn’t there. And the stupid long lines to the few that did, and prices that some how went up during that time. My fathers home has solar, and back up battery packs. His EV6 was “fully” charged (80%) and never had to stres those 3 days about it.

I’ll admit I was like a lot of naysayers out there, these ultra rare scenarios and stuff, until I was able to get first hand knowledge about it. EV’s work for more people than they think. Last longer than most think.. they don’t fit everyone, but even for my dad that has a 160 mile round trip commute from Apple valley to ft Irwin it works, it’s “free” to charge (nothings free he had to pay for his solar 10 years ago and upkeep and all) but the savings of 20-30 dollars a day in fuel and never going to a gas station makes it worth it 1000 times over for him. It did make it to Savannah Ga where my brother lives needing about 7 hours more, but also was many hundreds of dollars less then when he took his RAM 1500.

again though, I know many are against EVs due to it being “forced” on them by the gov or the feeling it is. But for most of Americans it works.
most Americans? like the ones in Texas who can't even use their electronics during a heat wave to prevent rolling black outs?
The grid simply is not up to par to support an influx of EVs getting charged at home
We have built our lives around being able to get into a car.....drive a few hundred miles, run out of "fuel" and going to a station, pee and fill it up with said "fuel" then drive again 15 minutes later
Battery powered cars are the future, and I am not against EVs, they just won't be plug-ins
Hydrogen cars are the solution, and Toyota/ BMW see it
 

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EV adoption should be started in fleet vehicles first. There you have full control with centralized ownership. It is very easy to have charging station build in commercial garages. They have all needed high power electric service there, which households lack. Distance driven per day is well defined or projected to make sure that charge capacity is sufficient for the whole business day.

But we do not see wide adoption of EV there and not much is done in that regard in law framework.
 

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There's something common to all of these states with garbage infrastructure. I can't quit put my finger on what that might be... 🤔

If only we knew.
 
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I don't mind EVs either. Kinda cool if you choose to use them in metro areas & don't need to travel too far... But there are a lot more common issues than extremes to be ironed out before going mainstream or mandating. Rural areas makeup ~72% of the US. That a lot of infrastructure to work on. China is the predominate source for lithium, nickel, cobalt, copper and graphite mining. We'd definitely be more dependent on them for those materials. Moreso than our current oil situation which we do have control of (like releasing restrictions and increase production). So perhaps a just little more work needs to be done?!?

As far as EPA oversight, I guess EVs are a bigger topic than EPA fining or coming after tuner shops - since no one is really talking about that 😂. Which I still think is NUTZ 🥜
 
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Another thread mentions power increase up to 500 HP :flame:without going crazy with huge mods. And the use of E85 sounds really compelling 🤤

https://www.supramkv.com/threads/power-upgrade-options-on-pump-fuel-only.14239/page-2

Any worries or things to know about making that switch to E85? Would that get the EPA peeps peeps panties in a wad and/or if it’s deemed “clean” in the clean air act (R&T article)? I wouldn’t want to have to convert my car back if the regulation gods haven’t deemed it safe yet (street legal).

I’ve always kept my street cars pretty stock, with the exception of cooling upgrades. And I’d like to keep this Supra streetable.
 

 
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