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I would get my money back or do a charge back if paid with credit card if he doesn’t correct it. Give him a chance first.
I will. Because i feel is impossible this car make almost the same amount of power stock when it have a intake, downpipe and a "tune"
 

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Intake doesn't do anything. Zero.

Downpipe you'll need for a tune.

Chargepipes hold boost pressure. Replace it if yours blow up, you run nitrous or meth, or you change the turbo or intake manifold.

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I highly doubt that your car is tuned at all. There's a Eurocharged (it's a chain) here in Chicago, and it's a garbage shop. My guess is that either your car is locked, and they couldn't figure out how to unlock it, or the flash failed somewhere along the way. There is no way that car is running more boost than stock. Even the shape of the curve is identical to stock.
 
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I understand intake have almost no gains but downpipe usually have gains between 75-100 on a tune. Its impossible this car made almost 0 gains on a "tune" even a 2020 would gain at least 415hp at the wheels on a tune with the downpipe. Eurocharged said i need a chargepipe and they usually charges 200 on labor but he will got me a special for 150 installation. Also said i can gain an extra 25-30 if i install the chargepipe and do a costume tune for another 800 to gain 25-30 more hp. I told him that my car is on a stock turbo so i feel it was not required.
 

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Chargepipes hold boost pressure. Replace it if yours blow up, you run nitrous or meth, or you change the turbo or intake manifold.
Eurocharged said i need a chargepipe
Jesus christ they're tryna fuck you. Find a new shop that

1) Isn't trying to fuck you
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2) knows what they're talking about

(Depending on which side of Hanlon's Razor you fall on).

Since you don't appear to really know all that much about what the various components are (which is fine, we all start somewhere), seems they're trying to ram their cock into your wallet.
 
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Jesus christ they're tryna fuck you. Find a new shop that

1) Isn't trying to fuck you
or
2) knows what they're talking about

(Depending on which side of Hanlon's Razor you fall on).

Since you don't appear to really know all that much about what the various components are (which is fine, we all start somewhere), seems they're trying to ram their cock into your wallet.
I also understand chargepipe don't add power. Also i understand about the intake dont add power ether. But the downpipe should add at least 75 over a stock and im pretty sure its impossible have been tune and the car is making 383whp for best run and the 3rd one for 376whp. Something wrong here. That's why i did open this post. To see other people talk about 2021 stock numbers since i don have one BUT I've been seen stock numbers and they seem very equal to me
 

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I also understand chargepipe don't add power. Also i understand about the intake dont add power ether. But the downpipe should add at least 75 over a stock and im pretty sure its impossible have been tune and the car is making 383whp for best run and the 3rd one for 376whp. Something wrong here. That's why i did open this post. To see other people talk about 2021 stock numbers since i don have one BUT I've been seen stock numbers and they seem very equal to me
You're replying to my posts, you're not reading them.

A downpipe isn't going to do dick if the boost isn't turned up. I'll say this one last time for the kids in the back of the class room, but I don't think your car was actually tuned. It seems to me like it didn't actually flash.

I also agree with everyone above, the numbers w/o a baseline don't mean dick. What kind of dyno is it? Mustang? DJ? Hub? All will read very different, and all will read differently based on everything. What gear did they dyno in? All this shit matters.

The advice, if you choose to stick with Eurocharged, is to tell them to flash it back to stock, dyno it, and see what the diff is. If your car is making like 320hp stock, and (your car isn't hurt), then every thing is fine.

The downpipe isn't going to flow more exhaust through if it's not tuned, which is why I suspect that it isn't actually tuned.
 

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Your first mistake was buying into and believing “stage 2” crap

that dyno shows you were either robbed or tuner is a moron. Full stop

get money back and then find a good tuner that other Supra guys in your area have had luck

and hint: if they start talking about Stages keep looking A tuner will ask what are goals, what supporting mods, and then work w you for a custom tune
 

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Your first mistake was buying into and believing “stage 2” crap

that dyno shows you were either robbed or tuner is a moron. Full stop

get money back and then find a good tuner that other Supra guys in your area have had luck

and hint: if they start talking about Stages keep looking A tuner will ask what are goals, what supporting mods, and then work w you for a custom tune
that's what I said.
 
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You're replying to my posts, you're not reading them.

A downpipe isn't going to do dick if the boost isn't turned up. I'll say this one last time for the kids in the back of the class room, but I don't think your car was actually tuned. It seems to me like it didn't actually flash.

I also agree with everyone above, the numbers w/o a baseline don't mean dick. What kind of dyno is it? Mustang? DJ? Hub? All will read very different, and all will read differently based on everything. What gear did they dyno in? All this shit matters.

The advice, if you choose to stick with Eurocharged, is to tell them to flash it back to stock, dyno it, and see what the diff is. If your car is making like 320hp stock, and (your car isn't hurt), then every thing is fine.

The downpipe isn't going to flow more exhaust through if it's not tuned, which is why I suspect that it isn't actually tuned.
Im just saying if my car was tuned with the downpipe it should get better numbers. Not just adding a downpipe will get those gains. That's why i put the downpipe send it for a tune
 

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Im just saying if my car was tuned with the downpipe it should get better numbers. Not just adding a downpipe will get those gains. That's why i put the downpipe send it for a tune
I don’t know jack about tuning a car. Zack (zrk) can vouch for me there… that being said, I went with the recommendations from these kids on the forum, found what I wanted, used the best custom tuner for my application, and used a great honest mechanic.… saves me a shit ton of time and headache! Definitely go back and reread. Tons of great info!! My mechanic will even ask me what I saw or read on this forum and pull it up in his shop. Hopefully your guy will do the same. A dose of humility goes a long way...
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