It's been a good run 6 years with the MKV Supra....

[darkloki]

Can't believe this ended up happening but it has been a solid 6 years with the Launch Edition Supra MKV. I got in 2019 and put on 63,000 miles on it within the last 5-6 years (Covid Years included). It was a great daily driver, I never modded my car but loved the B58 Motor. In fact loved it so much that I am now officially moving to the darkside and retiring this for the M2 CS in Velvet Blue.

Jason Cammisa had it right when he said the M2 CS 2020 was the better "Supra", I just waited 5 years later to get the S58 in the G87 but he was actually right the whole time I suppose. I just wish he had mentioned that the Supra should have been based on the hard points of an M2 and not that of the Z4.

This will be my fourth car that I own with my first being a MKIV Supra. What ended up happening was I found the MKV Supra to be way too small to use as a Daily Driver (Although I did it for 5-6 years) and the trunk mostly unusable for me and just crammed.

If anything I need to fit an International suit case and it would barely fit in a MKV. The M2 CS isn't like way bigger but it's dimmensions overall have a use case that is closer to the MKIV and therefore I'm used that and prefer having more space and a backseat. If I could daily my MKIV I would. However, with parts being incredibly difficult to acquire now it's not a viable option to use it as a daily driver .

I don't even think the M2 CS is all that pretty but i don't think it's ugly either it's just a BMW but the interior i do like and the S58 I do like and I guess I like lots and lots of carbon which the M2 CS has.

One of the largest complaints that the M2 CS gets is that it doesn't have a cup holder, lol. Do you know what else doesn't have a cup holder? The MKIV Supra, so you could say I'm used to it.

The trunk being connected to the backset folding down is identical to the MKIV which I appreciate. I guess in short I wish the MKV supra was on the M2 platform and not the Z4 Platform. IMO the M2 platform is closer to that of the MKIV and previous Supras.

After 5-6 years of trying it out I think I can say that it was a mistake to base the MKV on the hardpoints of the Z4 and it would have suited Toyota better had been on the M2 instead. If the car ended up being a tad larger then all other previous Supra's thats okay because well the R35 is the largest Skyline.

This isn't a hate post or anything I loved my time with my MKV, I fell in love with the B58 Motor and will be retiring it to a superior S58 Engine with stronger internals and twin turbos. If I had never gotten the MKV Supra I would have never looked at BMW Motorsport M cars. While the M2 CS is extremely exepensive the metrics on the car with 523 HP kind of put it at a good value as compared to that of a Porsche GT3.

I don't want a Porsche because I find the Daily usability of the M2 better then that of a Porsche GT3 plus ever since I started driving I've always had an Inline 6 Turbo Car and I see no reason to stop now.

My Deposit is in with BMW and the car is being built right now with Velet Blue I'm on the fence about getting Carbon Ceramic or Not (I don't need it but I like the idea of less brake dust, lol) it's $8,500 add on ($20,000 to get later) The car has everything you'd need on it so everything is included pretty much just like the Supra Launch Edition was.

If anyone else is daily driving their MKV Supra how are you doing with it? If I was a single guy it would be easier I feel but with a signifant other it's been a challange at times.

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[Eastwood]

Okay

 

[MKV MARY]

So, you're getting rid of the supra based on....

...storage space?

 

[BMWAF]

If anyone else is daily driving their MKV Supra how are you doing it? If I was a single guy it would be easier I feel but with a signifant other it's been a challange at times.

How big is she? I mean, the car does comes with a full size passenger seat.

 

[speedlimit]

Have you considered a Cayman? I think it's got more usable space than a 911.

But otherwise the M2 CS looks great. Have you tried those carbon bucket seats before? I personally found them annoying especially if it was a regularly driven car. It felt like a chore getting in and out.

I'm on the fence about getting Carbon Ceramic or Not (I don't need it but I like the idea of less brake dust, lol)

That's quite a bit of money to throw at not liking brake dust. I'd just get my wheels ceramic coated then have it redone whenever the coating starts to wear off.

Or if you get them just because the resale is (8.5K+) better, get them and throw on steel rotors then put the CC back later.

 

[Ecom]

Jason Cammisa had it right when he said the M2 CS 2020 was the better "Supra", I just waited 5 years later to get the S58 but he was actually right the whole time I suppose

Maybe it's too early in the morning but I'm struggling to follow what exactly you're trying to say. Jason Cammisa was talking about the older generation of M2's, but you've decided to get the newest model M2 which is much more expensive than the supra.. like a 40-50k difference..

The Supra is not designed to be the daily driver, it's designed to look incredible and handle beautifully. Also, I have two cup holders in my supra, what are you talking about?

 

[exe36m3]

The M2, great interior and drivetrain... design of the body? Autobot inspired by Temu.

Personally, M3 or M4 if you need the room. Which I get as a GenX dad. I would have been a 25+ year Mazda Rx-7 club member if the RX7 had a back seat. So in 2000 I got an E36 M3 and owned BMW variants since.

But as implied, stage of life does come into play. I actually did test drive the M2 before the Supra. Solid car. But I wanted something a little more special and the Supra felt more Asian in ergonomic feel. Plus no more need for a backseat, kids grown.

 

[darkloki]

How big is she? I mean, the car does comes with a full size passenger seat.

I said it it was International Suit Case... It's very difficult to fit that in the car along with yourself and your partner and your personal belonging for a trip. I work remotely and thus I travel quite a bit and I'm either driving somewhere on the West Coast or going to the airport.

The MKV Supra couldn't even come close to doing this.

 

[darkloki]

Have you considered a Cayman? I think it's got more usable space than a 911.

But otherwise the M2 CS looks great. Have you tried those carbon bucket seats before? I personally found them annoying especially if it was a regularly driven car. It felt like a chore getting in and out.



That's quite a bit of money to throw at not liking brake dust. I'd just get my wheels ceramic coated then have it redone whenever the coating starts to wear off.

Or if you get them just because the resale is (8.5K+) better, get them and throw on steel rotors then put the CC back later.

I weighed myself and I weigh 149.7 lbs and I'm between Five foot ten or five foot elven, and I fit perfectly in the seats and i can handle sitting there for quite a long period of time. I might just go with the steel rotors so I don't delay the build.

 

[darkloki]

Maybe it's too early in the morning but I'm struggling to follow what exactly you're trying to say. Jason Cammisa was talking about the older generation of M2's, but you've decided to get the newest model M2 which is much more expensive than the supra.. like a 40-50k difference..

The Supra is not designed to be the daily driver, it's designed to look incredible and handle beautifully. Also, I have two cup holders in my supra, what are you talking about?

Jason did like the older M2 better but he was talking about the hardpoints of the car and I now agree or am I saying (additionally) the hardpoints should have been on a M2 not a Z4 anyone who has driven or owns a MKIV supra will quickly say the M2 is closer to what an MKIV offers and not a roadster.

No Supra prior to the MKV was ever a roadster platform, I indulged it and after 5-6 years I'm saying they did indeed get it wrong and it should have never been a roadster. I believe the 2020 M2CS was 20K more and the the 2026 CS is 30k more vs (new supra) 40k more if you get Carbon Ceramic. But with that 30k you're getting alot for example: current gen iDrive (Not two generation old) S58 Motor with two turbos (additional 141 HP), Carbon Bucket Seats, carbon roof, carbon trunk, better wheels, caron mirror, carbon trunk more usable space, more headroom, and probbaly some other stuff but what I've listed here is more then enough for me.

In the last 5 years my paycheck and my investments have grown way more then the gap between the two cars plus trade in value for my MKV is around 40k so it's pretty much like buying another MKV supra again (five years later).

The MKIV does not have any cupholders. As in this MKIV I took the photo this morning, one of my HRE caps has gone missing but again there are no cupholders in this car and in my 27 years of ownership I've never had a problem with the missing cupholders. No Passanger has ever complained about it either.

 

[darkloki]

The M2, great interior and drivetrain... design of the body? Autobot inspired by Temu.

Personally, M3 or M4 if you need the room. Which I get as a GenX dad. I would have been a 25+ year Mazda Rx-7 club member if the RX7 had a back seat. So in 2000 I got an E36 M3 and owned BMW variants since.

But as implied, stage of life does come into play. I actually did test drive the M2 before the Supra. Solid car. But I wanted something a little more special and the Supra felt more Asian in ergonomic feel. Plus no more need for a backseat, kids grown.

While i think the M2 isn't that pretty I think the CS with the carbon bits and ducktrail look a little better. I like the interior alot better in the M2 CS as compared to the MKV and to me it feels more special if that's what you want to call it.

I never really found the MKV all that special as you say and I had a launch edition version. I drove mine around 60,000 miles worth as a daily it never did get nearly anything close to the compliments my MKIV Supra got. Literally yesterday I stopped traffic on the I-10 with just my MKIV though downtown LA. Yesterday alone i got in the realm of 15 compliments by the end of the day of people lowering their windows to start a small conversation/compliment or thumbs up all in a single day. It does feel special because it literally stats random conversations like non other. My MKV never got that treatment.

 

[speedlimit]

I weighed myself and I weigh 149.7 lbs and I'm between Five foot ten or five foot elven, and I fit perfectly in the seats and i can handle sitting there for quite a long period of time. I might just go with the steel rotors so I don't delay the build.

It wasn't about how comfortable they are but instead getting in and out for both you and your passenger.

 

[Davo307]

Jason did like the older M2 better but he was talking about the hardpoints of the car and I now agree or am I saying (additionally) the hardpoints should have been on a M2 not a Z4 anyone who has driven or owns a MKIV supra will quickly say the M2 is closer to what an MKIV offers and not a roadster car. No Supra before this MKV was ever a roadster platform, I indulged it and after 5-6 years I'm saying they got it wrong it should have never been a roadster.

The MKIV does not have any cupholders. As in this MKIV I took the photo this morning, one of my HRE caps has gone missing but again there are no cupholders in this car and in my 27 years of ownership I've never had a problem with the missing cupholders.

Purely my opinion, but I would never have bought the MKV if it was based on the MK4/M2 setup as a 2+2. I'm a 2 seater fan and knew that getting into this car and everything that comes along with it. Having dailied an s2000 at one point in my life, which makes the MKV look big lol.

We've also packed this car to the brim and done two, 8 day Tail of the Dragon/surrounding area trips with no problem. My wife and I are in our mid 30s though with no kids though.

 

[darkloki]

It wasn't about how comfortable they are but instead getting in and out for both you and your passenger.

The difficulties if any (it wasn't difficult for me to get into the seat) outweigh how difficult it is to get in and out of the MKV Supra** When I get in the MKV Supra (I don't consider myself all that tall at five foot eleven) I have to do some sort of side neck contortion and slide in which is not the case in the M2. I'm constantly trying to avoid hitting my head on the MKV Supra roofline and it's at stock height everytime I get in and out of it. I believe Matt Farah mentions this a couple times in his review of the MKV Supra and I'm not nearly as girthy as Matt but I do agree with him here after 6 years of ownership. Perhaps at the end of the day I'm more of a grand touring car driver instead of a sports car driver or roadster car driver.

Getting back to what you said about the Cayman do you think the Cayman will fit an International SuitCase? That's ultimately what I need to happen for me to be able to use it as a daily. I work remotely and travel alot so these images below bascially showcase what the M2 can do and what I look forward to being able to do.

M2:

 

[darkloki]

Purely my opinion, but I would never have bought the MKV if it was based on the MK4/M2 setup as a 2+2. I'm a 2 seater fan and knew that getting into this car and everything that comes along with it. Having dailied an s2000 at one point in my life, which makes the MKV look big lol.

We've also packed this car to the brim and done two, 8 day Tail of the Dragon/surrounding area trips with no problem. My wife and I are in our mid 30s though with no kids though.

I loved dailying my MKIV between 2000-2013 to the point where I decided to give this roasdster a try and 5-6 year try is a decent try I'd say. After doing it I'm ready to move on, I'm 40 now not exactly 30 like you but I dont think I'll ever go back to a roadster unless it's just a weekend car. But considering I'll never get rid of my MKIV Supra it makes it hard to pick up an additional weekend car. It's just my siutation i suppose.

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