Native Android Auto Development Thread

[nanaisu]

OK I was just trying to check against the requirements, is compatibility not a concern then? I saw there was one entry under the incompatible table.

So we're still not 100% sure on that guy - it seems like maybe HMI Apps wasn't coded properly from the factory? We honestly have no idea. Need like... Bimmerutility level visibility.

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[iambak]

So we're still not 100% sure on that guy - it seems like maybe HMI Apps wasn't coded properly from the factory? We honestly have no idea. Need like... Bimmerutility level visibility.

I saw this repo that has reverse engineering and they have a section of minting your own FSC code so it might just be a matter of coding it and supplying an FSC code.. i'll play around with it when I get a chance

https://github.com/vandelayautollc/nbt-evo-toolkit/tree/main

 

[Stevedabomb]

Awesome work so far on this - hoping to borrow a friends enet cable on the weekend - currently have a wifi mhd dongle which im happy to try out. Got a New Zealand new supra which had apple carplay disabled from new but a few years back got it enabled by buying a service from ebay. I only ever use android phones so really keen to try out AA on my supra thanks heaps !

 

[nanaisu]

Awesome work so far on this - hoping to borrow a friends enet cable on the weekend - currently have a wifi mhd dongle which im happy to try out. Got a New Zealand new supra which had apple carplay disabled from new but a few years back got it enabled by buying a service from ebay. I only ever use android phones so really keen to try out AA on my supra thanks heaps !

from what I've been told MHD & Others abstract direct access that's needed to open SSH and such. Maybe there's a way around it? I haven't dived into it since an enet cable is $15 at most.
For those that don't have Carplay, we have alternatives! The WiFi direct network is an option, and USB support exists under the latest branch.

 

[Naijaboy]

Hi, not sure if i'm doing something wrong here but this is the error i get when i try to check SSH status on the nvt app. I am using enet dongle and it shows SSH enabled.

I currently have an mmi installed but wanted to test this out, as i miss the touchscreen and having details in HUD would be awesome. 24 Supra US.

I also tried Turbocode proxy with the same results, unfortunately. Please send help.

 

[Stevedabomb]

Plugged network cable into bottom of my MHD Black dongle into laptop and after disconnecting and reconnecting my wifi a couple times on my laptop during the process to get the software downloaded etc i can now say i have Android Auto running thanks so much for making this and big thanks to Turbocode for the easy to use installer.

 

[darkhounds]

Problems on my side:

2020 GR Supra (South Africa), NbtAad plugin never loads, no AA entry in Media/Radio

• Head unit is NBT EVO ID6 8.8", firmware NBTevo_T24081I (121181.3.210), no CarPlay
• HMI build is NBTEvo_ID5_2403_Release-ID5_2403-525-2403A-Build-1, process /opt/hmi/bin/zipped/HmiMain3D -c -ro -rw -sp -vp -cp -iba1 -iba2 -h -z
• Installed Installer tag v1.9.33-usbpr66 with NBT_ALT_WIFI=DIRECT, and the pf_aa firewall check passes
• Plugin is at /opt/hmi/ID5/data/ro/Plugins/NbtAad/ with the .so, manifest, xml and both zips. The Plugins folder didn't exist from the factory.
• After a reboot there's no AA menu entry, no app log, and nothing for NbtAad in sloginfo
• Stock apps live in PluginsCoded/ (ActiveSeating, SecurityMenu) and include .p12/.p7b signature files. hmiplugins/ only has A4APlugin and RemotingPlugin.

Does this HMI build need a different plugin path or registration, or signed plugins? I'm happy to run any diagnostics.

 

[nanaisu]

Problems on my side:

2020 GR Supra (South Africa), NbtAad plugin never loads, no AA entry in Media/Radio

• Head unit is NBT EVO ID6 8.8", firmware NBTevo_T24081I (121181.3.210), no CarPlay
• HMI build is NBTEvo_ID5_2403_Release-ID5_2403-525-2403A-Build-1, process /opt/hmi/bin/zipped/HmiMain3D -c -ro -rw -sp -vp -cp -iba1 -iba2 -h -z
• Installed Installer tag v1.9.33-usbpr66 with NBT_ALT_WIFI=DIRECT, and the pf_aa firewall check passes
• Plugin is at /opt/hmi/ID5/data/ro/Plugins/NbtAad/ with the .so, manifest, xml and both zips. The Plugins folder didn't exist from the factory.
• After a reboot there's no AA menu entry, no app log, and nothing for NbtAad in sloginfo
• Stock apps live in PluginsCoded/ (ActiveSeating, SecurityMenu) and include .p12/.p7b signature files. hmiplugins/ only has A4APlugin and RemotingPlugin.

Does this HMI build need a different plugin path or registration, or signed plugins? I'm happy to run any diagnostics.

Strange, so it's not a regional variant issue as I've done another Supra in South Africa. If you have Bimmercode, can you check these values in the Head Unit:
REMOTE_HMI
A4A
A4A_Remote_Apps

 

[darkhounds]

Strange, so it's not a regional variant issue as I've done another Supra in South Africa. If you have Bimmercode, can you check these values in the Head Unit:
REMOTE_HMI
A4A
A4A_Remote_Apps

Thanks! Checked in BimmerCode on the head unit: REMOTE_HMI = nicht_aktiv (0x00), A4A = nicht_aktiv (0x00), A4A_Remote_Apps = nicht_aktiv (Ox00). Should I set all three to aktiv (Ox01)? And on your other SA Supra, was REMOTE_HMI set to aktiv or restricted?

 

[nanaisu]

Thanks! Checked in BimmerCode on the head unit: REMOTE_HMI = nicht_aktiv (0x00), A4A = nicht_aktiv (0x00), A4A_Remote_Apps = nicht_aktiv (Ox00). Should I set all three to aktiv (Ox01)? And on your other SA Supra, was REMOTE_HMI set to aktiv or restricted?

Yeah, if you could try Aktiv please.

 

[CERIALPHREAK]

Got nbt_aa loaded yesterday and figured I'd post some quick thoughts comparing to the Bimmertech MMI Pro I have been using up until now. This is all as of today, on version 1.9.42, if you're reading this a month from now the situation has likely changed.

This is more geared towards folks like me who already have an MMI and are thinking about switching. If you don't have one already just go this route and save yourself the money and hassle of having to rip your dash apart.

• NBT_AA Pros
  • Touchscreen support so no more fumbling with the jog wheel only
  • Navigation directions show up in dash and HUD
  • Can be mapped to one of the favorites buttons
• MMI pros
  • Higher quality audio via MOST/ fiber
  • More resilient connection
    • Seems to take longer to disconnect if i get out of the car while it's running and is faster to recover the connection
• Neutral
  • No auto-start by default
    • This may be more of a me-problem but one thing that drove me nuts with the MMI is that it kicks on as soon as the car unlocks. Which is great if you're getting right in the car to drive off, but if you're unlocking it to get something out of the glovebox or to work on the car it takes over your phone as AA starts. So if you had headphones in or were using a BT speaker in the garage that gets cut off while AA is running.

I'll try to update the list as things change and I do more driving.

 

[nanaisu]

Got nbt_aa loaded yesterday and figured I'd post some quick thoughts comparing to the Bimmertech MMI Pro I have been using up until now. This is all as of today, on version 1.9.42, if you're reading this a month from now the situation has likely changed.

This is more geared towards folks like me who already have an MMI and are thinking about switching. If you don't have one already just go this route and save yourself the money and hassle of having to rip your dash apart.

• NBT_AA Pros
  • Touchscreen support so no more fumbling with the jog wheel only
  • Navigation directions show up in dash and HUD
  • Can be mapped to one of the favorites buttons
• MMI pros
  • Higher quality audio via MOST/ fiber
  • More resilient connection
    • Seems to take longer to disconnect if i get out of the car while it's running and is faster to recover the connection
• Neutral
  • No auto-start by default
    • This may be more of a me-problem but one thing that drove me nuts with the MMI is that it kicks on as soon as the car unlocks. Which is great if you're getting right in the car to drive off, but if you're unlocking it to get something out of the glovebox or to work on the car it takes over your phone as AA starts. So if you had headphones in or were using a BT speaker in the garage that gets cut off while AA is running.

I'll try to update the list as things change and I do more driving.

Check the settings for autostart. I don't personally recommend it as it exponentially increases the likelihood of things breaking and it being a pain in the ass to recover from... But it's there for those who want it. Might make starting things a little bit faster.

There's also audio via WiFi if you chose the "Enable Native audio". It comes with its own cons (loss of multimedia controls & multimedia metadata), but is on our list of things to fix. Or at least try to fix. Min volume is also set to 25%. A DB decrease can be set in /opt/aa/nbt-aad.env so 25% = 0%, functionally. But for now, I recommend Bluetooth audio.

 

[CERIALPHREAK]

Check the settings for autostart. I don't personally recommend it as it exponentially increases the likelihood of things breaking and it being a pain in the ass to recover from... But it's there for those who want it. Might make starting things a little bit faster.

There's also audio via WiFi if you chose the "Enable Native audio". It comes with its own cons (loss of multimedia controls & multimedia metadata), but is on our list of things to fix. Or at least try to fix. Min volume is also set to 25%. A DB decrease can be set in /opt/aa/nbt-aad.env so 25% = 0%, functionally. But for now, I recommend Bluetooth audio.

Yeah I meant to provide a snapshot of current (stable) functionality vs the MMI since knowledge about the project is kind of scattered right now between here, github, and reddit. I figured there's at least a couple others out there like me who had an MMI already and were wondering if it's worth the switch.

Right now my only real complaint about the project is that it came out 2 months too late, you could have saved me a lot of hassle transferring my MMI from my old M2 to the Supra lol

 

[nanaisu]

Yeah I meant to provide a snapshot of current (stable) functionality vs the MMI since knowledge about the project is kind of scattered right now between here, github, and reddit. I figured there's at least a couple others out there like me who had an MMI already and were wondering if it's worth the switch.

Right now my only real complaint about the project is that it came out 2 months too late, you could have saved me a lot of hassle transferring my MMI from my old M2 to the Supra lol

if it makes you feel any better, I still have mine sitting in my car

 

[Naijaboy]

Huge thanks and appreciation to both @nanaisu and @CERIALPHREAK for troubleshooting with me. I knew i missed using touchscreen and HUD directions from maps but i didnt realize how much more i missed with native iDrive communication among other things you guys are adding.

Knowing that you actually had an MMI and working this out for others is plenty commendable as well. Enjoy some Bourbon on me brother.

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