New (Unconfirmed) Details and Specifications of US-Spec MKV Supra:

[A70TTR]

^ I'll just say that we're working on some tech that may or may not be related to this line of thinking (not free valve however) over in my new area, so this has just gotten interesting.

Well, the weight can't be determined, but if the car you tested was 3050 lbs before the TSS and the other gadgetry, I don't think toyota would allow the car to weigh 3500 lbs unless they somehow saved even more weight (unlikely) or this electronic gadgetry offsets the weight by providing insane amounts of torque to the ground like a Tesla P100D.

Does this make sense to you in terms of pricing and weight now after the leaked specs?

I mean, if the high power car is 3300lbs, 400hp, and $60-65k, it will absolutely sell. so yes, that part starts to make more sense if true.

specs match a 3.8/3.9s 0-60 too due to how fast the ZF8 changes gears in comparison to say a Lexus RCF unit. also, 750lbs lighter and a full .5s faster 0-60 than an RCF (65k) for comparison.

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[Modal170]

^ I'll just say that we're working on some tech that may or may not be related to this line of thinking (not free valve however) over in my new area, so this has just gotten interesting.



I mean, if the high power car is 3300lbs, 400hp, and $60-65k, it will absolutely sell. so yes, that part starts to make more sense if true.

specs match a 3.8/3.9s 0-60 too due to how fast the ZF8 changes gears in comparison to say a Lexus RCF unit.

Things jsut got very interesting.

Now, I just want to know the ballpark range for weight on the low HP and mid HP version if it doesn't have the trans and electronic assist. I know you said there's no chance toyota will not include TSS but what are the odds of a~ 3150 lbs Supra now?

 

[PerformanceSound]

^ I'll just say that we're working on some tech that may or may not be related to this line of thinking (not free valve however) over in my new area, so this has just gotten interesting.



I mean, if the high power car is 3300lbs, 400hp, and $60-65k, it will absolutely sell. so yes, that part starts to make more sense if true.

specs match a 3.8/3.9s 0-60 too due to how fast the ZF8 changes gears in comparison to say a Lexus RCF unit. also, 750lbs lighter and a full .5s faster 0-60 than an RCF (65k) for comparison.

I mean, imagine having a camless, throttle body-less, super high revving, turbo charged inline 6 in a Supra. What was I thinking...

 

[A70TTR]

Things jsut got very interesting.

Now, I just want to know the ballpark range for weight on the low HP and mid HP version if it doesn't have the trans and electronic assist. I know you said there's no chance toyota will not include TSS but what are the odds of a~ 3150 lbs Supra now?

not sure; I'd have to ask and do some digging.

I already passed this leak over to a colleague on the other side of the fence to see what he says.

 

[Modal170]

I'm really glad that this is all speculation because I gaurantee all the car journalists are furiously looking at the screen and hoping for bread crumbs to write their next piece.

Speaking of RCF, what would cause someone to take the Supra over the RCf if they're roughly in the same price and the Supra weighs less and most likely a peformance monster?

Or will it come down the luxury aspect and refinement as a daily driver for Lexus buyers? Cause I wouldn't mind a second Gen RC and RCF

 

[A70TTR]

last sentence mostly... the Supra is nice, but honestly it has nothing on the RC-F in terms of luxury/comfort. there is also the status aspect, but I'm not really sure to what degree that would play into someone cross shopping the two.

 

[Modal170]

I forget that there aren't a mass of enthusiasts as much as there are people who like style and comfort and that is enough. I guess now we wait to see if there are more posts to come from this guy or someone else chimes in since we're all in the dark.

 

[Nurburgring]

GREAT!
Give me the non-hybrid, 3100lbs, 50k version please!

 

[gymratter]

Hello, This is my first post. My neighbor works for BMW and brings home different cars before production wrapped. The other day I saw what looked like the new Supra on his driveway. A couple of days later I saw him and asked him about it. He confirmed it's the Supra. He also told me that it's also the new Z4. He said both cars are almost identical. The Supra on the driveway still had BMW badges under the hood. The Z4 will only be a convertible compared to the Supra being a coupe. He said he prefers to drive the Supra. It's a small car but very stiff chassis. Because of that he wouldn't recommend it as a daily driver. But, it handles great in the canyons.
The Z4 and Supra are the same with 3 different variances of engine's. From low hp to high hp they are
Forgot the size of the engine . But, low hp is single turbo
Mid level is 3.0L Twin Turbo
High level is 3.0L Twin Turbo with Electronic Assistance (Approx 400hp)
Whether you believe me or not. I don't care. I'm not in the market to buy the Supra. I have a C7 Z06 already.

But, it does sound like a fun car to drive

can you please find out if the base model is a 4 cylinder? those pics looks the same as the 4 cylinder prototype driving around Europe :/

 

[Modal170]

GREAT!
Give me the non-hybrid, 3100lbs, 50k version please!

Wonder how these cars will be named in trims. And if the single turbo is actually a four cylinder car running around.

That would basically involve 4 sport cars with 2 models. I don't know how they can price this competitively though.

 

[PerformanceSound]

Wonder how these cars will be named in trims. And if the single turbo is actually a four cylinder car running around.

That would basically involve 4 sport cars with 2 models. I don't know how they can price this competitively though.

Good point, because the MKIV had two turbo's but they were sequential....which meant only one turbo was on boost at any given time. Hence the "Supra Turbo" naming schema. The 3000GT, 300ZX, etc... cars with true twin turbo's (two turbo's on boost at all times), had the "Twin Turbo" naming schema. To your point, I'd be curious to find out if that twin turbo mid-model is a true twin turbo or sequential style? A70, any input on that?

 

[A70TTR]

it was a question I meant to ask a few days ago when someone mentioned how many turbos, but I'm waiting on a response atm.

 

[Modal170]

Good point, because the MKIV had two turbo's but they were sequential....which meant only one turbo was on boost at any given time. Hence the "Supra Turbo" naming schema. The 3000GT, 300ZX, etc... cars with true twin turbo's (two turbo's on boost at all times), had the "Twin Turbo" naming schema. To your point, I'd be curious to find out if that twin turbo mid-model is a true twin turbo or sequential style? A70, any input on that?

Huh.

Supra ST- Base Supra

Supra TT-Supra GR

Supra TT W/ Electronics - Supra GRMN?

 

[A70TTR]

Info just came back:

no hybrid powertrain for the Supra at this time and higher curb weight figure was suggested as belonging to solely the Z4. Apparently Z4 does have the hybrid tech, but that was all I was told.

Finally I can rest and get back to working on my other project...

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EDIT: battery pack alone weighs ~100kg apparently

 

[Medrivfast]

Also I dont think its a "leak". There is someone with the same username on the corvette forums. So it seems to check out as a legit poster.

I'm also on Corvetteforum.com as the same username.
Here's a pic of my 2017 Corvette Z06

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