Race Tracking Your Supra - Information exchange

[TBK]

Exactly! It’s just part of the equation and I’m sure you know he (and many others on here) put a crap ton of suspension mods (and aero) into their cars. I definitely would be calling foul if one of those was in my time trial class. I’m not that competitive but just sayin. There’s a guy on here with a S2K that’s fast as fock!! I certainly wouldn’t compare him to the average S2K guy out there. Also a friend of mine bumped his M3 into another class by adding more aero, tires, power, you name it. They all add up imo

A purpose built S2K is my dream car. Just send it off to Evasive Motorsports and tell them to do whatever they want to it and send it back to me. hnnnng

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[Rizen]

I don’t know about the GT3 RS specifically, but most supercars go straight to Track Mod at Gridlife. There was a guy running a McLaren 720S for a while. In Street GT, there’s a price limit of $130,000 MSRP adjusted.

When you get to Track Mod you can run real aero and I think a stock GT3 RS would not be able to keep up against a full tilt track mod build. Of course you can modify a GT3 RS as well but most of the people with the time and money to do that aren’t running Gridlife.

The other factor here is availability. Even if you have the money you can’t just buy a GT3 RS. You need to get an allocation which is very difficult to do unless you have an extensive history buying Porsches. Most people with the money and inclination to spend it on racing just go buy a real race car at that point from what I’ve seen.

 

[TBK]

I don’t know about the GT3 RS specifically, but most supercars go straight to Track Mod at Gridlife. There was a guy running a McLaren 720S for a while. In Street GT, there’s a price limit of $130,000 MSRP adjusted.

When you get to Track Mod you can run real aero and I think a stock GT3 RS would not be able to keep up against a full tilt track mod build. Of course you can modify a GT3 RS as well but most of the people with the time and money to do that aren’t running Gridlife.

The other factor here is availability. Even if you have the money you can’t just buy a GT3 RS. You need to get an allocation which is very difficult to do unless you have an extensive history buying Porsches. Most people with the money and inclination to spend it on racing just go buy a real race car at that point from what I’ve seen.

Ok so this makes a lot of sense now. So if this is true, there is something thats separates the GT3 RS from the plebs in Streetmod. Guess there are more class rules that i didn't see?

Re people not modifying them, again i think that's how our track scenes are a bit different. It's probably he most common car at a track day here, and quite a few of them get modified. Manthey kits and all. That's a level of $ my brain just doesn't understand tbh.

 

[Rizen]

Ok so this makes a lot of sense now. So if this is true, there is something thats separates the GT3 RS from the plebs in Streetmod. Guess there are more class rules that i didn't see?

Re people not modifying them, again i think that's how our track scenes are a bit different. It's probably he most common car at a track day here, and quite a few of them get modified. Manthey kits and all. That's a level of $ my brain just doesn't understand tbh.

I checked the rules and they don't specifically list all cars, but there's a provision giving them leeway to bump cars up in class for a "Spirit of the rules" situation, and Track Modern specifically states that it is intended for modern supercars with minimal modifications:

 

[FLtrackdays]

Ok so this makes a lot of sense now. So if this is true, there is something thats separates the GT3 RS from the plebs in Streetmod. Guess there are more class rules that i didn't see?

Re people not modifying them, again i think that's how our track scenes are a bit different. It's probably he most common car at a track day here, and quite a few of them get modified. Manthey kits and all. That's a level of $ my brain just doesn't understand tbh.

There’s a group of peeps that come during our winter months that have Dubai bling and mod their Porsches like there’s no tomorrow. It’s a rare crowd/group 4sho. Most Ferraris, McLarens & even Porsches have very little mods that I’ve seen. The guys/gals think they must run whatever the Porsche dealerships tells them, pads - tires, fluid and the likes. I don’t dare say they could do like the race guys and flex between brands or do what‘s best suited for their track/region. They’re strictly HPDE folks having fun.

Now the FARA race group does all that and you are absolutely right. The FARA SLS specs are worth checking out if you’re setting up a competitive time trial & more in our range racing league.

https://farausa.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/SLS-RULES-2025-v2.pdf

 

[TBK]

Some perspective. Have a look at this Evo that regularly competes (and wins) in the TA series here. This is a no expense spared build, piloted by a proper driver. 1000+ hp race car. The best the city has to offer. A 992 GT3 RS put down a faster lap time at the last time attack round. wat...

 

[Rizen]

Some perspective. Have a look at this Evo that regularly competes (and wins) in the TA series here. This is a no expense spared build, piloted by a proper driver. 1000+ hp race car. The best the city has to offer. A 992 GT3 RS put down a faster lap time at the last time attack round. wat...

Factory engineering goes a long way, especially when it comes to chassis and suspension design. The EVO is a fantastic car (my girlfriend has an EVO X with a built, Darton wet sleeved 4B11 and a complimentary set of modifications) but unless they've radically redesigned the suspension, the GT3 RS comes with proper double wishbone suspension and a much more robust chassis than what was essentially a hot-rodded economy car from 10 years ago.

I've spent a lot of money modifying a Subaru and there's just some problems that you can't fix unless there are essentially no rules.

 

[TBK]

Factory engineering goes a long way, especially when it comes to chassis and suspension design. The EVO is a fantastic car (my girlfriend has an EVO X with a built, Darton wet sleeved 4B11 and a complimentary set of modifications) but unless they've radically redesigned the suspension, the GT3 RS comes with proper double wishbone suspension and a much more robust chassis than what was essentially a hot-rodded economy car from 10 years ago.

I've spent a lot of money modifying a Subaru and there's just some problems that you can't fix unless there are essentially no rules.

3 time Subaru owner here as well.

This Evo is in the unlimited class. So it's one of those "no rules" builds. The same ones you would see at the WTAC in Sydney.

And yeah totally agree on the factory suspension bit, especially when that factory suspension is part of a $100,000 Manthey upgrade kit.

 

[razorlab]

First of all, very cool to be 4th on your leaderboard. Nice


Looking at your catalyst leaderboard, it's very clear that our track scenes are wildly different. A lot of the faster guys here run a modified 992 GT3 RS. I can't even see one on your leaderboard, which just tells me that it's not a popular car with the faster drivers there (and not because it's slower than, say, a GT4).

Here's a stock one running a very respectable 2:15 at the Yas GP Circuit with a bit of traffic. Cheat code

Keep in mind Garmin isn't used by everyone. AIM is much more widely used. Also, very few Time Attack drivers communicate out lap times on things like this.

You can look at the Gridlife and other TA orgs here and see all the results and lap times from previous years. Seems like GT4's are more popular than GT3's for TA here.

I can't even see one on your leaderboard

There are some on there, just way past the first scroll that I showed.

Also, as we both know, it's track dependent. The bigger flowy tracks that are more power friendly the GT3's seem to do better at.

Like all the big heavy new M cars doing well on the Nurburgring but aren't even in the same galaxy on smaller tracks.

 

[razorlab]

Some perspective. Have a look at this Evo that regularly competes (and wins) in the TA series here. This is a no expense spared build, piloted by a proper driver. 1000+ hp race car. The best the city has to offer. A 992 GT3 RS put down a faster lap time at the last time attack round. wat...

Somewhat related. My roots are Evos. I built a bunch, tuned hundreds, and was an owner of a couple myself over a span of 15 years or so.

My Evo 10 was my last track car with 640whp.

My Supra is better and faster in every way except driving feel.

 

[DC5UPRA]

Weekend with the boys earlier this month @Rensuhlo

 

[Rensuhlo]

Weekend with the boys earlier this month @Rensuhlo

Thank you for not posting the very embarrassing photo lol.

 

[Rensuhlo]

More CMP photos from a new friend, someone @DC5UPRA supra brought along.

ALso, this track COOKED my PMU CR fronts. They crumbled when I removed them.

 

[TBK]

Somewhat related. My roots are Evos. I built a bunch, tuned hundreds, and was an owner of a couple myself over a span of 15 years or so.

My Evo 10 was my last track car with 640whp.

My Supra is better and faster in every way except driving feel.

I feel the same way about the Supra. Tbh i also really like the "feel", after throwing the entire SPL catalogue at it, along with various braces, engine/trans mounts etc.....That said, I don't think any modern car will feel as nice as a sorted S2000, and going a step further, almost no road car i will ever drive will feel as good as a Caterham.

 

[Nugs]

My local track is pretty power firendly, two long straights and mostly slow corners.
I was faster than a 992 GT3RS when my Supra had 680whp, no aero and pretty basic track mods.
The driver of the GT3 is a much better driver than me as well, hes a good 1.5 seconds a lap faster when we've raced Radicals together.

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