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    In my 235 if you use the long press you need to do a short press in the same direction to cancel the indicator. Kind of counter intuitive. Even after 3 years i still mess it up. Not sure if that says more about me or the design lol
     
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    LMAO......... You don't have to click it to the opposite direction you had it on to turn it off. You just give it another light tap the same direction you did to turn it on and it goes off. Not that complicated or counter-intuitive.....
     
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    LMAO.......... The fact that BMW is getting rid of that feature is proof that it is counter-intuitive....
     
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    For what it's worth, new Lexus models also have the turn signal return to its original position after operation just like BMW does.

    The main difference between the two implementations is that to cancel the signal you push it lightly in the opposite direction instead of the same direction. Other than that, they are the same.

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    Is it nonsense cause you don’t like it? One point that I actually like on it is the fact, that you can find the stick in the same position, every time you’re looking for it. But that’s just my opinion, nobody else needs to like it the same way.

    Another aspect is, that most of the times I activate flash lights for more than three times, I’m just turning. And after that, flash lights turn off automatically. Like it does in (nearby) every car.
     
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    No it is nonsense for sole fact that is not intuitive.

    If you pull any sort of lever, you expect the inverse of that action to cancel or reverse the function. Upon first encounter, you never expect that pulling the lever again will cancel the action,

    I am a Senior Software Engineer specializing in User Interface/User Experience so I think about these things on a professional level everyday outside of what I do and do not like :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    For a moment there, I thought he was demonstrating this sitting in a MKV Supra....up until I noticed the BMW badges on the steering wheel and rear taillights in the video. :dunno::D
     
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    If rumors are true and if anyone is interested in the live stream to see how the A90 measures against the competition, here's the link for the live stream of the the VLN Nurburgring Endurance Race taking place on October 20th!
    http://www.nuerburgring.de/en/events-tickets/automobile/vln.html
     
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    Is January yet?? Feeling like, tasted only sample at Costco.
     
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    Not all heroes wear capes.

    Thank you good sir, I'll definitely be tuning in to this one!
     
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    As far as I remember, you can do it that way in a BMW too. A slightly push in the opposite direction cancels the chosen signal. So it doesn’t matter in what direction you push it, it cancels anyway.
     
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    You should simply make a test drive with a BMW. Believe me, the usage of turn signals is as intuitive as you want it. I did never ever had any problems with it in three years of driving BMW.
     
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    This is where our disconnect is, you're under the impression I have never used them.

    I had them in my E92, and although it only takes an hour or so to get used to, I believe it is a clunky mechanism that is unnecessarily different
     
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    Its the same deal in my f150. Stalk is always in the center position. Its not as intuitive as what we are used to but it does not take long before its not even a thought
     
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    The center position is one thing, but BMW's system to cancel is by using the same direction that is active. IE: turning off the right turn signal by pressing up to trigger the right turn signal again.

    As Jeff mentioned, the Lexus system cancels it upon using it in the opposite direction, which is fundamentally the same reaction when using a traditional stalk. Where as BMW stalks will trigger the opposite turn signal when doing so. IE: trying to turn off the right turn signal by pressing down will cancel the turn signal in the Lexus, but will turn on the left signal in the BMW
     
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