The A70TTR Dedication Thread!

[A70TTR]

Moto-san commented on a post that the production car is 250lbs less than the M2.

I expect a variance based on market as per usual, but that gives us pretty good idea.

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[BrettS]

For people to lazy to google. M2 weight:3450lbs ish so that puts the supra around 3200

 

[Rotaryrunner]

for the rest of the world that's about 1450kg

 

[Illsic_Design]

For people to lazy to google. M2 weight:3450lbs ish so that puts the supra around 3200

But did he mean M2 or M2 comp, because M2 comp is heavier at like 36xx.

 

[A70TTR]

Regular M2.

I tried googling curb weights and gave up lol.

 

[McWicked]

Moto-san commented on a post that the production car is 250lbs less than the M2.
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For what spec Supra? Is that bare bones, or with all the gravy?

 

[A70TTR]

Run of the mill 6cyl I assume

 

[Blupra]

Moto-san commented on a post that the production car is 250lbs less than the M2.

I expect a variance based on market as per usual, but that gives us pretty good idea.

For people to lazy to google. M2 weight:3450lbs ish so that puts the supra around 3200

My M2 'feels' small, light, and fast. Sounds like this Supra is going to be smaller, lighter, and faster! Now lets just hope its equal to or less than 2016-2018 M2 prices and not closer to 2019 M2 or M3/4 prices.

 

[MA617M]

Wet mass, without driver:

M2 manual = 1495kg
M2 DCT = 1520kg

250lbs = 114kg

therefore

A90 1381kg - 1406kg (3038 - 3093lbs)

That feels optimistic.... but please, let it be close to 1400kg flat.

 

[A70TTR]

The figures I was getting for a DCT M2 (US spec with extra safety bs) were around 3500lbs, meaning 3250 for the Supra.

So, ~1475kg.

I could definitely see other markets saving quite a bit more, as the Euro M2 DCT is quite a bit lighter apparently.

 

[Kicol33t]

If i remember correctly i heard 1495kg, and I was like.. well yeah that is below 1500kg but only by 5kg

 

[elpadrino]

graphene is another big one, and Toyota is pushing hard for hydrogen fuel cell (which is my bet for the future long term).

on the grid side, nuclear is absolutely the way to go, but we have to push all of the ignorance/fear around it out first.

I'd like to hear more of your thoughts on this. I've always wondered why Japanese companies(and their government) push Hydrogen Fuel Cells so much when everyone has moved to battery power and are slowly eliminating most of the pain points associated with it. Reminds me of the video format wars where the best tech usually lost out to the most popular one and proved disastrous for some companies.

 

[A70TTR]

Well, hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are actually electric vehicles, but they solve a few issues that are unlikely to be resolved in traditional EV any time soon: no battery packs so FAR less weight and no worry over replacement, they can be "recharged" in as little as 10 minutes at a fueling station, and generally speaking have the ability for further range than traditional EV (Tesla Model S range—300+ miles—in smaller/lighter/cheaper package).

IMO, they are vastly superior, but an infrastructure change would have to happen soon for them to be viable.

 

[MA617M]

Yeah, my mass values are for hte ADM models, which are probably more in-line with the EU spec.

 

[A70TTR]

A version of the A90 may have dry sump apparently, I'm guessing the GRMN because I didn't see anything of the sort on the real OE stuff (plus that would be real weird IMO).

Cool stuff anyways.

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