THIS Is the Manual Toyota Supra [Official Release]

[Evolution]

So if the manuals are going to get a markup, does that mean the autos will be discounted?

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[Guff]

A modified GS6 is what was in the original mules.

 

[CUL8RSAM]

Wow - I have to wonder if ANY car is good enough. I mean, I get being picky but to reconsider your deposit based on a parking brake… I’ve never heard of that before.

I agree that being picky will make you criticize any car, But to think about it, the 86 and the GR Corolla both have a manual handbrake and its there for a reason. On a manul car its a factor of being slower to use, more frustrating because it requires you to hold to the brake down to engage or disengage and often times does switch has a delay or requires a longer hold. If your battery is dead it will not disengage or engage. It solves a problem that never existed for the driver.

Not to mention it’s not even an emergency brake anymore. You can’t use a button parking brake while you’re moving so I’m not even sure what I would do if my brakes didn’t work in a car like that.
It can get you out of situations when traction is tricky and pulling the handbrake can straighten it out.

 

[Guff]

I agree that being picky will make you criticize any car, But to think about it, the 86 and the GR Corolla both have a manual handbrake and its there for a reason. On a manul car its a factor of being slower to use, more frustrating because it requires you to hold to the brake down to engage or disengage and often times does switch has a delay or requires a longer hold. If your battery is dead it will not disengage or engage. It solves a problem that never existed for the driver.

Not to mention it’s not even an emergency brake anymore. You can’t use a button parking brake while you’re moving so I’m not even sure what I would do if my brakes didn’t work in a car like that.
It can get you out of situations when traction is tricky and pulling the handbrake can straighten it out.

While I do prefer a manual handbrake. These cars will hold the brakes themselves on a hill. And the electronic parking brake can be pressed while moving and used as an emergency brake. Battery being dead is definitely an annoying one though!

 

[Awales74]

I may be in the minority. But I don't get the MT hype.

I just finished 6.5 years with a MT. Yes, it does add a bit of fun to choose when to up shift or down shift into the upcoming corner. Fun to have the connection between the scream of the engine and your foot. Dropping a gear to pass an a** hole in the passing lane is positively cathartic.

But isn't that all achievable with the paddle shifters? I understand you can't just throw it from 6 to 2. The paddles are sequential. But that's race car right? All race cars have sequential gear boxes.

You guys ever drive an MT in heavy traffic? Day after day after day? And with these more powerful engines you end up with heavier and heaver clutches. OK for the race track. But for a daily it just gets old.

Finally, isn't this JZA80 tranny pretty hot? What will you do when MT comes up with slower 0-60 times than the AT? And this is not uncommon. Noise regulations, fuel consumption, and other design goals lead mfgs to choose unfavorable lower gear ratios in MTs.

 

[Baldmonkey22]

no more Turb gray, Silver or matt gray huh...

why not make the damn door panels match too?

 

[Baldmonkey22]

I may be in the minority. But I don't get the MT hype.

I just finished 6.5 years with a MT. Yes, it does add a bit of fun to choose when to up shift or down shift into the upcoming corner. Fun to have the connection between the scream of the engine and your foot. Dropping a gear to pass an a** hole in the passing lane is positively cathartic.

But isn't that all achievable with the paddle shifters? I understand you can't just throw it from 6 to 2. The paddles are sequential. But that's race car right? All race cars have sequential gear boxes.

You guys ever drive an MT in heavy traffic? Day after day after day? And with these more powerful engines you end up with heavier and heaver clutches. OK for the race track. But for a daily it just gets old.

Finally, isn't this JZA80 tranny pretty hot? What will you do when MT comes up with slower 0-60 times than the AT? And this is not uncommon. Noise regulations, fuel consumption, and other design goals lead mfgs to choose unfavorable lower gear ratios in MTs.

You can go 6 to 2 by holding down the downshift paddle... FYI

 

[GreyMadder]

I may be in the minority. But I don't get the MT hype.

I just finished 6.5 years with a MT. Yes, it does add a bit of fun to choose when to up shift or down shift into the upcoming corner. Fun to have the connection between the scream of the engine and your foot. Dropping a gear to pass an a** hole in the passing lane is positively cathartic.

But isn't that all achievable with the paddle shifters? I understand you can't just throw it from 6 to 2. The paddles are sequential. But that's race car right? All race cars have sequential gear boxes.

You guys ever drive an MT in heavy traffic? Day after day after day? And with these more powerful engines you end up with heavier and heaver clutches. OK for the race track. But for a daily it just gets old.

Finally, isn't this JZA80 tranny pretty hot? What will you do when MT comes up with slower 0-60 times than the AT? And this is not uncommon. Noise regulations, fuel consumption, and other design goals lead mfgs to choose unfavorable lower gear ratios in MTs.

Actually if you hold down the paddle it will auto shift to the lowest possible gear determined to be rpm safe for the engine depending on the speed you are going.

 

[hallucin89]

Damn, that blue with the cognac leather would be fire. Would actually consider trading in my red. Doesn’t sound like that’s an option though.

 

[Elektro]

Not to mention it’s not even an emergency brake anymore. You can’t use a button parking brake while you’re moving so I’m not even sure what I would do if my brakes didn’t work in a car like that.
It can get you out of situations when traction is tricky and pulling the handbrake can straighten it out.

????????

of course you can use it while you're moving, it will work the same as the automatic model or any other car. Why would they make it work only when stationary for the MT model, can you even call it a brake at that point lol or just a park lock?

 

[Tsar]

Elbows too pointy, would not buy.

Happy for those who waited and got what they wanted. Others were never gonna get the car anyways. Just go buy the Z with gazillion hp for 25k.

 

[Guff]

I may be in the minority. But I don't get the MT hype.

I just finished 6.5 years with a MT. Yes, it does add a bit of fun to choose when to up shift or down shift into the upcoming corner. Fun to have the connection between the scream of the engine and your foot. Dropping a gear to pass an a** hole in the passing lane is positively cathartic.

But isn't that all achievable with the paddle shifters? I understand you can't just throw it from 6 to 2. The paddles are sequential. But that's race car right? All race cars have sequential gear boxes.

You guys ever drive an MT in heavy traffic? Day after day after day? And with these more powerful engines you end up with heavier and heaver clutches. OK for the race track. But for a daily it just gets old.

Finally, isn't this JZA80 tranny pretty hot? What will you do when MT comes up with slower 0-60 times than the AT? And this is not uncommon. Noise regulations, fuel consumption, and other design goals lead mfgs to choose unfavorable lower gear ratios in MTs.

Different strokes for different folks.

I've owned my A90 since the beginning days and I'm so bored of it at this point. It's super fast, fun to drive, gets lots of track time. And I can't wait to get a GR Corolla and give the Supra to my fiancee.

I've spent my whole life driving manual. From light stock clutches to insane six pucks and multiplates. Cars that made 100hp to 1000hp. Daily drove so many of them; heavy traffic, long distance, hills and highways both.

I thought when I sold my BRZ and started dailying the Supra that I was going to feel the same way that many people do: the auto is the way to go. Faster, better MPG, paddles work just as well, traffic is easier.

Yeah, turns out I never actually cared for any of those "benefits".

Considering my track record of owning cars, I'll probably end up owning a few of these A90 Supras in my lifetime, and you can bet your ass that from now going forward, every single one of them will be Manual. And as long as I have function of my two hands and legs, that will always be the case.

 

[Awales74]

Actually if you hold down the paddle it will auto shift to the lowest possible gear determined to be rpm safe for the engine depending on the speed you are going.

Oh, thanks. Not out of the break in period. Haven't tried hooning it up yet. Thanks!

Still, don't get the love for the MT. We don't ride horses, stand out side to start the car, adjust the choke with our foot, or get high on gas fumes from our carburetors. Modern ATs get you there faster, smoother, and fuel efficient.

 

[orvillesd]

I like how the GR family has the same wheel design

 

[MisterSkiz]

I agree that being picky will make you criticize any car, But to think about it, the 86 and the GR Corolla both have a manual handbrake and its there for a reason. On a manul car its a factor of being slower to use, more frustrating because it requires you to hold to the brake down to engage or disengage and often times does switch has a delay or requires a longer hold. If your battery is dead it will not disengage or engage. It solves a problem that never existed for the driver.

Not to mention it’s not even an emergency brake anymore. You can’t use a button parking brake while you’re moving so I’m not even sure what I would do if my brakes didn’t work in a car like that.
It can get you out of situations when traction is tricky and pulling the handbrake can straighten it out.

Its because the manual was an afterthought - I really hope its not a giant kludge.

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